Question asked by Demian
I read the article of Nyatrul and have been being bugged with questions. Why would the present incarnations of the Rinpoches and Dalai Lama not remember Nyatrul before in their previous incarnations?
If the Nechung Oracle is actually being possessed by Nyatrul, does that mean that the Tenma Oracle and previous Gadhong oracle were evil spirits helping Nyatrul or were they the real deities?
I've read that the Nechung oracle has to go through a certain training to let Dorje Drakden in the body, but does that mean all those years of training only led to an evil spirit taking over instead?
If Nyatrul took over the Nechung Oracle, where is the real Dorje Drakden? Does that mean Dorje Drakden was defeated to this spirit and innocent this whole time?
Isn't there any prayers or rituals to Nyatrul to settle him down or lead him into paradise?
Would the black magic mantras be to Mahakala, Yamantaka, or unenlightened spirits and demons?
Is Lotsawa house a recommended place to obtain teachings, prayers, and dharma?
Dear Demian,
Thank you for your question. Please see the answer below in regards to the abilities of the enlightened beings, they definitely have clairvoyance and the ability to remember their previous incarnations.
Just because the Nechung oracle may be taking trance of Nyatrul rather than Nechung, this does not necessarily mean that the Tenma and previous Gadhong oracle were not taking trance of their respective deities. This is only one example of an oracle, this does not automatically make all other oracles wrong.
That being said, Pehar Gyalpo, Shinjachan and the Tenma goddesses are definitely not evil spirit beings, they have been bound by Guru Rinpoche to protect the Dharma. Therefore they are not evil and not harm people. They are real and powerful Dharma protectors for sure. However I cannot tell you if the oracles were taking real trance of the deities or not as I do not have clairvoyance.
In regards to the training of an oracle, please see my answer to the previous question below. Just because an oracle takes trance of another being apart from Nechung, that does not mean that Nechung was defeated in any way. It simply means that the oracle could no longer take trance of Nechung and therefore another spirit was able to enter.
Since Nyatrul is a spirit there are many different rituals that could settle him down and place him on a more righteous path. However since we are within samsara, these rituals would only be successful if the prevalent collective karma of the people meant the conditions were right for it to be done. Since the negative karma for the Tibetan government has opened up due to their previous actions, perhaps the lamas are indeed helping by preventing physical harm or other misfortune. Perhaps the karma is so negative that if they don’t let the karma complete, it may manifest in another more negative situation.
In regards to black magic mantras, there are no such mantras to either Mahakala or Yamantaka, this is because these beings are enlightened. Their practices can only help one progress on the spiritual path and not harm others.
In regards to Lotsawa House, their website seems to be a good place to find translations and prayers. If you have not already done so, there are many prayers on available here as well: https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/category/prayers-and-sadhanas. I hope this helps.
Thank you.