Does this matter to you?
Dear friends,
Because I’ve always been tall (6’2″) having more space is VERY important. Also I have a tailbone fracture, so sitting in small tight places without much movement space for long periods really aggravates the injury and it can be quite painful (Ouch!). So seating in various transportations with more space is infinitely important to me and I am sure for you.
Enjoy happy comfortable flights whether your travelling the friendly skies or just travelling to a place deep within yourselves.
Tsem Rinpoche
The Most Comfortable Airlines for Flying in Coach
by Melanie Pinola
Not all of us can or are willing to pay to sit in the more roomy seats at the front of the plane. But that doesn’t mean you have to be uncomfortable when you fly. Some airlines have at least decent economy (coach class) options.
Yahoo Travel took a look at US and international carriers’ seats and service to find the most tolerable coach experiences. Virgin America is shown above. In addition to unique mood lighting, Virgin’s planes have a roomy (or at least roomier than average) 32-38 inch seat pitch, which is the distance between one point on a seat to the same point in the seat in front of it—a measure of legroom. By comparison, some low-cost carriers pack you in at 28 inches of seat pitch.
JetBlue, Hawaiian Airlines, and American Airlines round out the list for domestic carriers. American even figured out the reclining vs. knee space heated issue: When their seats recline, the bottom slides forward so the person in back of you doesn’t need a Knee Defender.
Comfort may vary by type of plane and route, but if you’re going on a long flight and comfort matters to you as much as price, consider one of these options first.
When you think about it, there’s really something primal about all the recent incidents of air passengers fighting over their recline space during flights. Even in the deepest reaches of the animal kingdom, creatures of the wild fiercely guard their territory, bitterly locking horns with any interloper who dares encroach on their domain. Whether it’s in the wild or 30,000 feet up, whether it’s your spawning ground or the space between your knees and the seat in front of you, it’s the same for creatures of all species: Your territory must be protected at all costs.
Unfortunately, for the species class known as Flyerius econimus (aka economy/coach class flyers), their habitat is getting smaller, especially when you consider the industry-standard legroom measurement, seat pitch (the distance from any point on one seat to the same point on the seat in front). “Seat pitch on airlines overall has shrunk from 32-33 inches to 31 inches, with some low-cost carriers coming in at 28 inches,” says Kevin Carter of SeatGuru, a site that lets travelers pick the ideal seats for their flights using reviews and comparison charts. ”Some fliers are feeling more of a squeeze,” Carter says.
Seat pitch is how legroom is frequently measured. More is better. (Illustration: Yahoo Travel)
The economy situation is better on foreign-based airlines. “Asian and Middle Eastern carriers put us to shame,” says Chris Lopinto of ExpertFlyer.com (which has launched a Seat Alert system that notifies you when a better seat on your booked flight becomes available). Lopinto says foreign carriers fly longer, more expensive routes, meaning they don’t have the financial pressure to cram in as many bodies as possible. Not so with U.S.-based carriers. “U.S. domestic flights are mostly shorter-haul flights,” Lopinto says, which means airlines have to schedule more flights packed nose-to-tail with passengers. “So in economy, comfort isn’t a top priority for airlines,” Lopinto says.
Still, there are airlines, even in the U.S., where you can fly economy without feeling like you’re strapped inside a Fiat glove compartment with 200 of your closest friends. So Yahoo Travel, with the help of our experts, brings you the airlines with the best economy (or coach) class offerings — where services are decent, and, more important, you won’t feel the need to get all “wild kingdom” to protect your space. Here they are (in no particular order):
Virgin America
As far as U.S. based-airlines go, Sir Richard Branson’s airline is an economy class act. SeatGuru cites Virgin America’s generous seating sizes (some of its flights have a seat pitch of 32 inches, while others go up to a roomy 38 inches; the seat width is around a not-too-shabby 17.7 inches), as well as its AC and USB connections and audio/video on-demand service at every coach class seat. Wi-Fi is also available on all planes.
One SeatGuru user raves about Virgin America: “The seats are great. Mood lighting, music when boarding, the in-flight entertainment system is FANTASTIC.” Another says: “The leather seats make the width more tolerable, simply because you don’t bottom out. Legroom is reasonable compared to other domestic airlines, and IFE [n-flight entertainment] is pretty decent… Overall, great for a trans-con flight.”
How popular is Virgin America’s flying experience among the masses who fly coach? When Yahoo Travel compiles its semimonthly list of the meanest comments passengers have tweeted to/about airlines, Virgin America is consistently one of the hardest airlines to find complaints about.
JetBlue
Like Virgin America, JetBlue gets good reviews from experts and economy class flyers. SeatGuru reports that the pitch on JetBlue planes is typically 32 inches and on some planes goes up to between 37 and 41 inches.
Passengers notice the difference. One SeatGuru user comments: ”Compared to other airlines, these seats offer the greatest width and legroom, as well as comfort. For that reason, I choose this airline whenever possible.” DIRECTV is available via its in-seat monitors, and there’s XM Satellite Radio on most aircraft.
Hawaiian Airlines
Hawaiian Airlines’ Airbus A330 planes help make the transoceanic flight to America’s 50th state comfy for its coach passengers, with up to 32 inches of pitch and a seat width of about 18 inches. “Hawaiian Airlines — they do it right,” says ExpertFlyer.com’s Chris Lopinto.
American Airlines
We wanted to include at least one of the United States’ Big Three Airlines on this list. Lopinto didn’t hesitate to offer his vote: the American Airlines Airbus A321, which American uses for its major transcontinental routes. “If you’re flying between New York’s JFK Airport and Los Angeles or San Francisco in coach, this is the preferable plane to be on,” Lopinto says. “You don’t feel like a sardine because there aren’t as many coach seats.”(36 coach seats, to be exact; check out SeatGuru’s map.) He notes that when its seats recline, the bottom slides forward, preserving the knee space of the person behind you.
INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES
As we said, you’ll likely find a better economy class experience on one of the major international carriers than on your average U.S. airline. Here are a few standouts:
Porter Airlines Bombardier Q400
This Canadian airline gets a thumbs-up from Lopinto for its unheard-of roominess for a small short-hop aircraft. “Even for a small plane, its 34-inch pitch is impressive,” he says.
Cathay Pacific Boeing 777-300
There’s one area where you shouldn’t buy American, says Lopinto, and that’s if you’re taking a coach class flight to Asia. “If you’re flying to Asia, choosing an Asian-flagged carrier will give you a much better flying experience than a U.S-flagged option,” he says. Lopinto singles out Cathay Pacific’s Boeing 777-300 planes. They have “18.5 inches of seat width, 32 inches of pitch, with great cabin service and personal entertainment in every seat,” he says.
Qatar Airways Boeing 777
“Awesome” is how Lopinto describes Qatar Airways Boeing 777’s economy class seating. He raves, “19 inches of seat width plus 33 inches of pitch.” He also recommends using this airline for hops to Europe as well.
Emirates Airbus A380
We know we said this list was in no particular order. But if it were, Emirates’ economy class seating, especially in its Airbus A380, would be an easy #1. “A really nice plane on a really nice airline,” says Lopinto, noting its 33-to-34-inch seat pitch. But, he says, “the service puts it over the top.” Yahoo Travel’s Editor/Flyer-in-Chief, Paula Froelich, agrees. “The economy meals I’ve had on Emirates have been better than 70 percent of the meals I’ve had in New York City restaurants,” she says.
No one’s pretending that an economy class seat on any airline is anywhere close to the luxury experience you can get in business or first class. And even if you go with a particular airline, finding a good economy class flight can still be hit or miss. “Every airline has 10 different airlines configured in 10 different ways,” Lopinto says. Research your flight thoroughly online on sites like SeatGuru and ExpertFlyer.com. Lopinto also says you’ll likely find better economy seats on newer or recently overhauled planes (“Wi-Fi and seat-back entertainment are good signs” of a new or newly refurbished plane, he says).
So if you pick the right airline and do your homework, flying coach doesn’t have to be such a savage experience.
Source: http://lifehacker.com/the-most-comfortable-airlines-for-flying-in-coach-1638165604?utm_campaign=socialflow_lifehacker_facebook&utm_source=lifehacker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
Source: https://www.yahoo.com/travel/flying-coach-doesnt-have-to-suck-airlines-with-the-97701558532.html
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Antique Pelden Lhamo thangka with sacred Dorje Shugden at the bottom right. Can see Tsongkapa and Guru Rinpoche on the top also. Beautiful and holy.
Thank you, Rinpoche for sharing this article on airlines that offer decent legroom. The legroom or seat pitch really matters whether we are traveling long haul or short distance. It is really hard for the average-sized men and women to encroached in a tight space, leave alone the man of a 6’2″.
I think it is important for a long journey to have a comfortable seat, but for short flights I do not care how big the seats are. People always expect to get good quality for low costs, but this is not possible. If they want to have a better seat they have to pay more for it.
Thanks Rinpoche for sharing this informative article. Hope Rinpoche tail bone get well soon (with folded hands).
I wish we can have a pilgrimage tour with Rinpoche in a comfortable plane to Rinpoche in near future… hehehe… Now we know what type of seat that Rinpoche needed…
Nice write up. A good to know when flying American airlines and Asian international flights.
Thank you for the wonderful article, Rinpoche. Is great for frequent travellers.
Thank you Rinpoche for the sharing.We certainly hope for the speedy recovery for Rinpoche in order for Rinpoche to move over continentes to spread the dharma more comfortable during transit in flights.
There are flights operators who value the comfort of his passengers and those who prioritise profits and set up cost.But they should understand that a happy passenger would be a repeat customer in term of marketing strategy.
If I was to choose between comfort and budget.I would choose something in between for long hall flights.Who would like to reach their destination grumpy and tired.
For flights where you’re going to be on the plane for a minimum of 4 hours or less but yet wanting to fly under a budget, the best is trying to select the flight where the seats which are just behind the emergency doors are available, this is because the seats that are just behind the emergency doors will definitely have more legroom than other seats because the door itself is wide and so does the path leading it have to be.
Of course on longer haul flights there is the Premium Economy Class which is a cross between the normal economy class and the Business class, the main feature Rinpoche might be intersted in is that all the Premium economy class seats have at least 1 to 2 inches of extra legroom compared to the economy class other features also include WIFI throughout the flight, better food service, also the seats in premium economy also allows you to recline your seat by at least a further 1 to 2 inches as well, oh and also the premium economy class tends to be more quieter as there are limited seats on every flight and some airlines don’t allow children on board the premium economy class.
From my experience, it really does matter to have larger legroom as well because most of the time, the person sitting in front of you is going to recline his/her seat even before the flight has taken off.
Hope this helps Rinpoche when looking to fly domestically around the U.S and all flights in general!
Thank you Rinpoche for the sharing. Wish Rinpoche a speedy recovery from the Tailbone Fracture so that Rinpoche can travel comfortably to all the places of interests. I am traveling in within myself searching for my inner Buddha. Despite this may not be so comfortable, sometimes it is painful and with the feeling of uncertainty, I feel happy to be on this flight because this is a meaningful and special journey. I hope I can get closer to my destination everyday, and may I have the merit to continue the journey with Rinpoche forever.