117 Responses to Tibetan Leadership’s New Anti-Shugden Video

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   Samfoonheei on Oct 10, 2019 at 1:42 pm

   Thank you Kecharian team who had worked tirelessly to produce all these videos to counter checked all the untruths and allegations. For decades the Dorje Shugden ban had caused unnecessary sufferings among the practitioners and non practitioners in and out across the globe. The Tibetan Leadership or CTA claimed to be democratic but much evidences had proven they are not after all. Looks like the CTA is all behind the persecution of Shugden people for their own agenda. Every one of us has the right and freedom of religion, we pray to what we want. But then the CTA had put a stopped to it causing hardships and disharmony in the communities.
   Thank you for all the information to clear the doubts on the illogical ban of Dorje Shugden .

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   Pastor Shin Tan on Dec 9, 2018 at 7:51 pm

   Mantras are sacred verbalized words that invoke the protection and blessings of the deity to whom the mantra is ascribed. Mantras are also the manifestations of Buddhas in the form of ‘sounds’, hence the various mantras of Dorje Shugden contain the essence of the Protector.

   Dorje Shugden’s main mantra 多杰雄登主要咒语
   OM BENZA WIKI BITANA SOHA
   

   Dorje Shugden’s mantra for peace 平和咒语
   For gaining attainments through the energy of Peaceful Shugden, peace of environment and mind, harmony in one’s abode and dwelling area, and calming of disasters
   OM BENZA WIKI BITANA SHANTI SIDDHI HUNG
   

   Dorje Shugden’s mantra for health 福寿安康咒语
   For long life, increasing life, healing of disease and protection from diseases
   OM BENZA WIKI BITANA AYU SIDDHI HUNG
   

   Dorje Shugden’s mantra for increase 增长咒语
   For gaining great merits and increase of all necessary needs, both material and spiritual
   OM BENZA WIKI BITANA PUNYE SIDDHI HUNG
   

   Dorje Shugden’s mantra for control 控制咒语
   Of worldly deities, negative people and nagas and for influencing friends towards the positive
   OM BENZA WIKI BITANA WASHAM KURU HO
   

   Dorje Shugden’s mantra to grant protection 庇护咒语
   Visualize that you are in the Protector’s mandala, fully protected from outside interferences. Recite when in danger or for dangerous situations, for protection while travelling or when residing in dangerous/hostile places
   OM BENZA WIKI BITANA RAKYA RAKYA HUNG
   
   https://video.tsemtulku.com/videouploads/comment-1544345059.mp4

   
   

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   Tsem Rinpoche on Nov 27, 2018 at 6:15 am

   Dear friends,

   Tibet has produced many powerful meditations, rituals and guidelines to help us gain spiritual protection, gain wisdom and higher states of consciousness. In general Tibet has produced many powerful methods for the growth of our spiritual evolution. Dorje Shugden is an angel, a saint, a powerful spiritual protector-warrior who originated 350 years ago when a highly awakened Tibetan Lama fulfilled his vows to become a special being to grant protection, wisdom, material needs, safety when travelling (normal and astral travel) and spiritual awakening. Both the Great 5th Dalai Lama and the current His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama composed short yet effective prayers to invoke upon the power and blessings of this special saint and protector. One can recite either one of the prayers that you feel suits you, anytime or even daily. When you feel a special need for help, you can recite either prayer anytime. When you are feeling down, afraid or just need a blessing, you can recite them. After reciting either invocation, it is good to chant the mantra of Dorje Shugden: Om Benza Wiki Bitana Soha.

   You do not have to be a Buddhist or practitioner of any religion to invoke upon the blessings and protection of this special enlightened and awakened angel Dorje Shugden. He helps all without discrimination or bias as he is filled with compassion and love. Divinity has no boundaries, they help all who call upon them.

   Enclosed are the prayers in English, Chinese and Tibetan.

   May you be safe, protected and blessed.

   Tsem Rinpoche

   More on the Great 5th Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden – https://bit.ly/2w7KHv6

   More on H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden – https://bit.ly/2QdaL4n

   Chapel (Trode Khangsar) built by the Great 5th Dalai Lama dedicated to Dorje Shugden in Lhasa – https://bit.ly/2zBTd8M

   —

   亲爱的朋友们，

   西藏产生了许多有助于我们得到精神庇佑、取得智慧和更高层次之觉悟的强大禅修法、仪式和教诲。总括来说，西藏产生了许多有助于我们在修行上取得提升的强有力方法。多杰雄登是一个天使，一位圣人和一名护法战士。他的崛起始于350年前，当一位高度觉悟的西藏高僧履行本身的承诺，化身为特别的护法，赐予我们守护、智慧、物质需要、出入平安（平日外游和神游时）和灵修上的觉醒。任何人都可以随时随地在任何时候念诵适合自己的祈愿文。当你需要特别的帮助时，你可以随时念诵任何一篇祈愿文。当你感到沮丧、恐惧或仅是需要加持时，你也可以持诵这些祈愿文。在念诵任何祈请文后，你应该接着念诵多杰雄登的心咒：嗡 班杂 维格 毗札那 娑哈 Om Benza Wiki Bitana Soha。

   要祈请多杰雄登这位特殊、觉悟和觉醒的天使赐予加持和庇佑，你无需是佛教徒或任何宗教的修行者。他总是没有分别或偏见，充满慈悲和慈爱地帮助一切众生。神圣是没有界限的，圣者会帮助有求于他的任何人。

   以下附上英文、中文和藏文的祈愿文。

   愿你平安，常受庇护和加持。

   尊贵的詹杜固仁波切

   更多关于第五世达赖尊者和多杰雄登护法的内容 — https://bit.ly/2zsC3tG

   更多关于第十四世达赖尊者和多杰雄登护法的内容 — https://bit.ly/2r4aaDN

   第五世达赖尊者为多杰雄登护法在拉萨建造的护法殿（布旦康萨）— https://bit.ly/2zBTd8M

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

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   Tsem Rinpoche on Nov 23, 2018 at 6:38 am

   Divination (‘mo’) Text by Dorje Shugden

   This is an important divination (‘mo’) text composed by Dorje Shugden himself. Dorje Shugden took trance of the Choyang Dulzin oracle lama, the senior oracle of Gaden Shartse Monastery, and instantly on the spot composed this text within two hours.

   The divination text contains information on how to use dice to do divination for the future and is known to be highly accurate. When practitioners use this text, they will be in direct contact with Dorje Shugden to get answers to questions about the future. It is for those who have good samaya with Dorje Shugden and are free of the eight worldly dharmas to be of benefit to others in divining the future.

   Tsem Rinpoche

   

   DS-MO-choyang.pdf

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   Pastor Adeline Woon on Sep 24, 2018 at 2:48 am

   Be blessed with these rare videos featuring explanation and advice about Dorje Shugden practice by His Holiness Kyabje Zong Rinpoche in his own voice. The teaching was requested by Geshe Tsultrim Gyeltsen, one of the earliest masters who taught Tibetan Buddhism in the West.

   Video 1: H.H. Kyabje Zong Rinpoche Explains Dorje Shugden Initiation and Benefits (With English Subtitles)
   
   Kyabje Zong Rinpoche was an erudite scholar, ritual master and practitioner of the highest degree from Tibet. At the request of Geshe Tsultrim Gyeltsen, one of the pioneers who taught Tibetan Buddhism in America, Kyabje Zong Rinpoche gives clear explanation and advice about the life-entrustment initiation of Dorje Shugden and how to go about the practice and get the maximum benefits in this video.

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzFMvlxAqtc&feature=youtu.be

   Video 2: H.H. Kyabje Zong Rinpoche speaks on the History and Lineage of Dorje Shugden (With English Subtitles)
   
   In this video, an erudite scholar, ritual master and practitioner of the highest degree from Tibet, Kyabje Zong Rinpoche talks about the incarnation lineage of Dorje Shugden and how the practice arose, with examples of Dorje Shugden’s previous lives that reveal his powerful spiritual attainments and contributions. This very rare teaching was given at the request of Kyabje Zong Rinpoche’s student, Geshe Tsultrim Gyeltsen, one of the pioneers who taught Buddhism in the West to many disciples since the 1970s.

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIzKSJgK618&feature=youtu.be

   For more information: https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/great-lamas-masters/kyabje-zong-rinpoches-advice-on-dorje-shugdens-practice.html

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   Joy Kam on Aug 13, 2018 at 12:36 am

   His Holiness the 10th Panchen Lama

   Tibetans commonly refer to His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama and His Holiness 10th Panchen Lama as the “sun and moon” of Tibetan Buddhism. They are the center of Tibetan Buddhist civilization, which draws to its sphere of influence millions of non-Tibetan practitioners. The Panchen Lama’s incarnation line began with the 16th abbot of Tashi Lhunpo Monastery, Lobsang Chokyi Gyeltsen (1570 – 1662). He was bestowed the title of Panchen Lama by His Holiness the 5th Dalai Lama after being declared as an emanation of Amitabha.

   After being given the title, his three previous incarnations were posthumously also bestowed the title, making Lobsang Chokyi Gyeltsen the 4th Panchen Lama. He became a teacher to many Tibetans, Bhutanese and Mongolian religious figures, including His Holiness the 4th and 5th Dalai Lamas, and the 1st Jetsun Dampa of Mongolia. A prolific author, Chokyi Gyeltsen is credited with over a hundred compositions, including a number of commentaries and ritual texts that remain central in the Gelukpa tradition today. Along with his role as a teacher of the Dharma, the Panchen Lamas are usually responsible for the recognition of the rebirths of the Dalai Lamas, and vice versa.

   The 10th Panchen Lama, Lobsang Trinley Lhundrub Chokyi Gyeltsen (19 February 1938 – 28 January 1989) continued both the spiritual and political roles of his predecessors. His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama, his contemporary, was even heard to say and echo the Panchen Lama’s own words that the Dalai Lama would safeguard Tibet from the outside while the Panchen Lama would safeguard Tibet from the inside, as he never left Tibet after the political troubles of 1959. He was truly loved by the Tibetans, all the way until his passing. When he taught, thousands of people would attend, not only from his own Gelug lineage, but masters and practitioners from all traditions of Tibetan Buddhism.

   At his sprawling monastery of Tashi Lhunpo, he has a special chapel specifically dedicated to Dorje Shugden, where prayers and rituals are performed on a daily basis. In his great omniscience the Panchen Lama held Dorje Shugden as the principal Dharma protector of the monastery. He also personally propitiated Dorje Shugden among other Dharma protectors, and even wrote extensive prayers and rituals to Dorje Shugden. These rituals and prayers are contained within his ‘sung bum’ or collected works, which are provided here. As such a great lama, with an erudite and clear understanding of the Buddhist scriptures, a teacher to millions in both Tibet and China, from an established incarnation line and an emanation of the Buddha Amitabha, he could not be mistaken about his practice of Dorje Shugden.

   His Holiness 10th Panchen Lama is known for his composition of commentaries and practice texts that are still in use by contemporary Buddhist practitioners both in Tibet and across the world. One of these is a powerful ritual composition propitiating the compassionate Dorje Shugden.

   Upon the request by Acharya Lobsang Jangchub to compose a shorter version of the prayer (sadhana) for the exhortation of activities of Dorje Shugden, Panchen Lama immediately composed an abbreviate form of Dorje Shugden’s Kangsol. This text is entitled “Manjunatha’s (Tsongkapa) Lineage protector Dorje Shugden and five forms wrathful propitiations and confessional prayers and fulfilment of activities rites” or “Melodious sound of Accomplishment of the Four Activities” for short. Once the prayers were completed, he had signs and strong feelings that Dorje Shugden has been working hard to protect the Buddhadharma in general and the lineage of Lama Tsongkhapa specifically.

   Mirroring the abilities of one of his earlier incarnations, Khedrub Je, a disciple of Lama Tsongkhapa and master of both sutra and tantra, the Panchen Lama used his compositional skill and poetic prowess to create a masterful sadhana. Worthy of note is a praise in which the first letter of each verse is a Tibetan vowel. Such compositions are rarely seen, and have historically only been used when propitiating senior Dharma protectors such as Palden Lhamo and Kalarupa.

   The Panchen Lama also stated that while composing the Dorje Shugden sadhana (prayers) he was filled with a sense of happiness and bliss. He ends the composition with not only his official title but his ordination name, Tenzin Trinley Jigme Choje Wangchuk, endorsing the validity of his work. He composed the sadhana in his own Tashi Lhunpo monastery while in the Hall of Clear Light and Bliss.

   See the Panchen Lama’s writings and download: https://bit.ly/2KIfeXb

   

   

   

   

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   Edward Ooi on Aug 10, 2018 at 5:58 am

   For the first time available, Dorje Shugden and his entourage of 32 asssistants of his mandala.

   Dorje Shugden is a powerful protector deity who is also an emanation of Manjushri, a wisdom bestowing Buddha. Therefore, he has great ability to help us to progress further on the spiritual path. He does this by helping us to overcome obstacles and problems for the modern individual.

   Due to his enlightened nature, Dorje Shugden is able to manifest 32 deities and within the same abode resides Setrap and Kache Marpo:-

   1. 5 Dorje Shugden families or emanations. They consists of the following:-

   – Dulzin Dorje Shugden, which performs activities to eliminate inner and outer obstacles.
   – Shize, which performs activities to pacify all illnesses and disease.
   – Gyenze, which performs activities to increase all desirable material and spiritual wealth.
   – Wangze, which performs activities to control difficult people and circumstances.
   – Trakze, which performs activities to wrathfully eliminate all insurmountable obstacles and life-threatening situations.

   2. 9 Mothers. They represent protection of the five senses and developing control of the four elements. These are all attributes that signify their ability to assist tantric practitioners with their higher meditations.

   3. 8 Guiding Monks. They represent the Eight Great Bodhisattvas (Avalokitesvara, Manjushri, Vajrapani, Samantabhadra, Maitreya, Kshitigarbha, Akashagarbha, Sarva-nivarana-viskambini) and they bring about the growth of the Dharma, through the Sangha, Dharma practitioners and Dharma establishments.

   4. 10 Youthful & Wrathful Attendants. They represent the ten wrathful attendants to avert inner and outer obstacles. They are beings who are from Mongolia, China, Kashmir, India, Bengali, etc.

   5. Setrap. He is a senior Dharma Protector from India and an emanation of Amitabha Buddha. He had enthroned Dorje Shugden as an authentic Dharma Protector. Therefore, he also resides within the same mandala of Dorje Shugden.

   6. Kache Marpo. He is not an emanation of Dorje Shugden but he is still an enlightened Dharma Protector in his own right. He was originally known as Tsiu Marpo of Samye Monastery. However, he has placed himself under the service of Dorje Shugden as his chief minister, performing many activities in order to protect and benefit practitioners. Therefore, he stands guard at the main entrance of Dorje Shugden’s mandala. He often takes trance of qualified mediums to speak.

   7. Namkar Barzin. He is the reincarnation of an old Mongolian monk and when he passed away in Phari area of Tibet, his spirit was placed as a powerful assistant of Dorje Shugden. He guards and protects buildings and great institutions especially those that benefit others. He rides on a mythical Gyaling animal that resembles a goat but with scales.

   These sacred images are available on *Vajrasecrets. They are made of high quality alloy and are one of a kind. They are based on the lineage of His Holiness Panchen Rinpoche’s monastery, Tashilhunpo in Shigatse, Tibet. In fact, the iconography of these statues are based on detailed photographs taken by H. E. Tsem Rinpoche during a trip to Tashilhunpo’s protector chapel. These are based exactly as the 10th Panchen Lama’s personal collection.

   Dorje Shugden mandala: https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=131570

   Dorje Shugden’s benefit and practice: https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=62422

   Dorje Shugden’s origins: https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=106424

   Dorje Shugden chapel in His Holiness Panchen Rinpoche’s Tashilhunpo Monastery in Tibet: https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=68698

   *Stand not included

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

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   Pastor Adeline Woon on Jul 25, 2018 at 9:39 am

   Sakya tradition’s thangka of Dorje Shugden sitting on a throne within his palace with his four emanations and high Sakya Lamas nearby. Tsem Rinpoche

   

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   Joy Kam on Jul 21, 2018 at 2:33 pm

   Antique Pelden Lhamo thangka with sacred Dorje Shugden at the bottom right. Can see Tsongkapa and Guru Rinpoche on the top also. Beautiful and holy.

   

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    Beatrix Ooi on Nov 16, 2017 at 2:21 am

    Dorje Shugden practice was originally a very small issue until the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) decided to make it big. It is no doubt that the Dorje Shugden controversy was started by the Tibetan leadership, in fact they are one of the reasons why Dorje Shugden is so known and widely practised today.

    On what basis does the CTA ban people from practising Dorje Shugden? What rights do they have to ostracise and discriminate sincere practitioners of Dorje Shugden who literally just do his practice for the sake of their individual benefits towards their spiritual path? There is no democratic country in the world that ostracise their own people due to their religious preferences, in fact why should one be discriminated against, spat upon, beaten and unfriended just because they practise Dorje Shugden?

    We are living in the 21st century where undemocratic ruling will not be tolerated anymore. I hope the CTA will stop spreading rumours about Dorje Shugden and causing his practitioners to suffer. I believe that Dorje Shugden is a Buddha, he is an emanation of Manjushri; I also fully believe that heavy negative karma will arise for disparaging the Buddha. Therefore I really hope the CTA will stop all their negative acts and stop collecting negative karma.

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    Pastor Elena Khong Jean Ai on Nov 15, 2017 at 11:57 pm

    Whilst filming this video, what struck me very strongly is that I am fortunate to even have the opportunity to appear in a video like this because:

    (1) the only reason why any of us have anything logical, interesting or compelling to say is because Rinpoche taught us so well

    (2) thankfully, we are Malaysians who have religious freedom. If we lived in the Tibetan communities, we would never be able to film such videos without suffering some form of repercussion. The fact is that anyone who practices Dorje Shugden and lives beyond the Tibetan leadership’s influence, and therefore has the freedom to speak our minds, has a greater responsibility and duty of care to speak up on behalf of all who cannot

    Look, if non-Tibetans like us can see all of this regarding the ban, how many others out there are thinking the same thing but don’t dare to say it themselves? We were merely articulating what many people feel and for that reason, I’m very glad the Tibetan subtitled versions are out now, to spread these views ever further and wider and hopefully motivate others to speak up as well.

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    bk on Nov 15, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    

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    bk on Nov 15, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Thank you for these powerful videos that will be a constant nagging thorn in the side of the Tibetan administration and anyone else who wants to blacken the name of Dorje Shugden without proof or basis.

    So much evidence is presented in these 5 videos to counter the original video released by the CTA that people should think twice before attempting to further damage the name of Dorje Shugden and his practitioners, or to create further division in the Tibetan refugee community.

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    Pastor Shin Tan on Nov 15, 2017 at 8:01 am

    Have you ever heard of a democratic government that spends money to produce literature and video to talk negatively about a religious practice? We are talking about a 13-minute documentary accompanied by a 400-over page publication. Incredible! All this on the basis the claim that Dorje Shugden practitioners are linked to their ‘enemy’, the Chinese leadership.

    At the launch, Sikyong stated that “these misguided people are being manipulated by the Chinese government to advance their propaganda of maligning the good name of His Holiness the Dalai Lama and the just cause of the Tibetan people led by the Central Tibetan Administration.” Why is it that the public is not reminded about the numerous manipulation by the leaders of the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA), such as the fraudulent election, to the extent that the former Kalon Tripa of the Tibetan Government in Exile Prof Samdhong Rinpoche abstained from voting in the election? The ironic truth is that what the leaders of the Central Tibetan Administration did directly damage the reputation of His Holiness.

    The Tibetan leadership in Dharamsala should stop engendering an atmosphere of fear, suspicion, and disharmony between Dorje Shugden practitioners and non-practitioners. There has never been a divide or issue, in fact, there wasn’t such vocabulary of “Shugden practitioners” versus non-practitioners before the ban manufactured by the CTA. The real culprit that disrupts Tibetan social harmony is none other than CTA itself. Ask any Tibetan and they can tell you who really has “a notorious history of violence, including murder, within the Tibetan community,” definitely it is not the Shugden practitioners.

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    Pastor Adeline Woon on Nov 15, 2017 at 6:28 am

    These videos are very necessary to counter the repeated false claims by the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) on the unlawful ban of Dorje Shugden. These videos were highly circulated by the Tibetans on social media platform. Now that the Tibetan version is available, more Tibetans can understand the contradictory statements made by their leader Lobsang Sangyay and the kashag (cabinet). It is very important that the Tibetans understand so that they can unite and join force to vote for a different and more capable leaders who will really do something that benefit them.

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    Cynthia on Nov 15, 2017 at 6:16 am

    Well done to those who took the time to produce these videos with a clear and logical explanation to counter CTA’s video and book against Dorje Shugden. Not many Shugdenpas would have bothered to go through all this trouble to produce this. A big thanks to all involved!

    It is a religious organisation’s duty to explain and clear doubts especially when false claims have been made against a Buddha to avert negative karma. But what business does a political government have to speak against a Buddhist deity?

    The money spent on the production of Dorje Shugden videos and printing books would be better spent on the people’s welfare. Please don’t mix politics and religion.

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    Pastor David Lai on Nov 15, 2017 at 4:00 am

    I feel extremely proud of my fellow Kecharians who came out with a professionally produced video and explanation that refutes the anti-Shugden video. The sheer logic and reasoning, research and validity of the source material brings this explanatory videos up unto another level.

    I thought I had commented before but I look like I missed it the last time. I am glad that a Tibetan version is out so it its penetrative explanations can be shared within the Tibetan world where the heart of this religious ban is being enforced. The evidence and the presentation of the facts makes it a compelling watch.

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    Wei Theng on Nov 15, 2017 at 3:18 am

    Very disappointed to know that the Tibetan leadership (CTA) has produced a video to justify why they discriminate their people just because of their religious practice. A real leader/government should take care and unite of their people but it is not the case for CTA.

    Thank you Rinpoche and team for working hard to produce videos to present the facts and debunking the baseless excuses given by the CTA on Dorje Shugden practitioners. Dorje Shugden practitioners has been suffering so much and even being insulted or physically harmed due to the discrimination and segregation promoted by the CTA. We sincerely pledge the Dalai Lama to lift the Dorje Shugden ban and let everyone can practice the practice that were given by their Guru freely.

    If anyone would like to understand more about why Dorje Shugden practice is not spirit worshipping, please watch the video in this article:
    https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/great-lamas-masters/dorje-shugden-people-do-not-go-to-the-three-lower-realms.html

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    TekLee on Nov 15, 2017 at 1:30 am

    This video is very informative! Thank you all who made this video. It clearly delivers the message that the ban on Dorje Shugden is illogical. First of all, there is no evidence at all that Dorje Shugden practitioners are paid by China government and even China spy. We, who live in Malaysia, have religion freedom. As long as we are not Malay, we can choose to believe in any religion we want. Does China government can simply come in to a country, override the government and appoint any spy they want? This is ridiculous.
    Secondly, there’s again, no proof at all that Dorje Shugden practitioners are anti H.H Dalai Lama. We respect H.H Dalai Lama as the leader of Tibetan. We never did anything even a single post on social that anti Dalai Lama, and even talk bad about Dalai Lama. Unlike some rich government who spent thousands of money to publish books only to talk about how bad Dorje Shugden practice is, and make web site of it, and even organize talk, forum, spent time to talk negative about Dorje Shguden practice. And yet, that did no have any evidence, and proof how negative it is about Dorje Shugden practice. People discriminate, segregate Dorje Shugden practitioners, is because they are fear. They are worried that if they don’t discriminate Dorje Shugden and the practitioners, the leadership will be harsh on them, will threaten them.
    Dorje Shugden practice has been in the lineage, even in Tibetan Buddhism for 400 years. Sakya started practicing Dorje Shugden, then Gelug. Many high Lamas, including H.H Dalai Lama tutor H.H Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche practiced Dorje Shugden. And now he reincarnated. If Dorje Shugden is devil, if, we, Dorje Shugden practitioners worship devil, H.H Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche practice Dorje Shugden and he was H.H Dalai Lama tutor, then what are we doing here? Where is logic?

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    Wah Ying on Nov 15, 2017 at 1:21 am

    For the discriminations and segregations of Tibetan government in exile done to Dorje Shugden practitioners, some of my questions are:
    1. If Dorje Shugden worshippers are really as traitors to the Tibetan people as accused, then the government in exile should take these to court and charge them with crimes betraying the country and people. Let judge pass any judgement to the crimes they have committed if they are really have been the traitors as claimed.

    Suggesting the whole Tibetan society that these so called traitor are deserving of whatever misfortune, discrimination and suppression is directed against them; is actually against any democracy country with rule of laws – you should’t punish anyone with crimes they did not do or have not proved they have done.

    2. Many have donated money and resources to Tibetan government in exile, the time, money and resources they have been directed to launch any campaign to against Dorje Shugden people to this non-issue as they claimed, is illogical. Thus Tibetan government in exile should direct the time, effort and resources to the betterment and welfare of Tibetan people. They are so many Tibetan living under not so good condition.

    3. For me, ‘Chinese link’ label was unfair, racist, without basis and evidence, and a huge generalisation of ALL Chinese around the world. The accusation by Tibetan government in exile is not only suggesting that being Chinese is you will be definitely a Chinese spy who would definitely hurting the benefits of Tibetans, and all Chinese are the enemy of all Tibetans. Hence, encouraging hatred and anger among Chinese and Tibetans, which is an selfish and hyprocrite act of the Tibetan government in exile, especially when they are “trying” to resume the dialogue with the Beijing government.

    With all the information, facts and evidence provided above, it’s clearly debunk all the allegations and accusations by Tibetan government in exile on Dorje Shugden people are not true at all, but with all the hidden agenda to serve their personal needs, including to divert people’s attention that the government is not functioning, and is not bringing Tibetans to anyway. Dorje Shugden people is being used as scapegoat for whatever failure of the Tibetan government in exile as an effective government. In conclusion, all the accusations on Dorje Shugden people are fabricated and thus illogical are highly convincing.

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    Freon on Nov 15, 2017 at 12:46 am

    I am Malaysian and I practice Dorje Shugden as my protector practice. Not only this practice given by my precious root Guru, H.E Tsem Rinpoche, also through protection from Dorje Shugden, I have guidance on my daily life, and able to help my friends and families to go through their difficult time through Dorje Shugden’s helps.

    I do not received any single China’s money to ask me to pray to Dorje Shugden. This is simply accuses create by CTA to build hatred and chaos, so that their own agenda is hidden. So that they forever play the victim game to show the world they are “victim” and then the donation come to them more.

    Instead of using the donation for their people in exile, they use it to cover do the video specifically to persecute Dorje Shugden, to create religion apartheid!

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    Callista on Nov 15, 2017 at 12:31 am

    For more than 2 decades Dorje Shugden (DS) practice has been banned which create havoc among Tibetan.
    How it happened?
    His Holiness Dalai Lama (HHDL) has refrained Tibetan from DS practice and at the same time CTA enforced the act even further by spending unnecessary money and create illogical allegation about DS practice.
    This action was prolonged till 2016, HHDL says we can practice DS and an announcements was made and published in phayul.com, Dalailama.com and a video. HHDL also made certain clarifications:
    – His Holiness has said that Dorje Shugden does not harm him
    – Since it does not harm him, it does not harm the Tibetan cause because the Dalai Lama
    is the upholder of the Tibetan cause
    – His Holiness the Dalai Lama said we can practise Dorje Shugden
    – His Holiness the Dalai Lama even said where we can go if we want to rely on Dorje
    Shugden, when he tells the audience that there are monasteries adjacent to Gaden and
    Sera that practise Dorje Shugden (Shar Gaden Monastery and Serpom Monastery)

    Well the above message is clear enough for CTA to act immediately to practice democracy by allowing freedom of religion and Stop Creating Negativity Comments about Dorje Shudgen Practice.

    I thank His Eminence Tsem Rinpoche, Pastors and all the peoples who work very hard to produce the videos and publish the article.

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    Pastor Han Nee on Nov 14, 2017 at 11:26 pm

    Wow! Imagine a government expending so much resources on producing books and videos to condemn fellow Tibetans for practicing Dorje Shugden , because it is a practice it disagrees with. As a democratic government, this is most illogical and unbecoming.

    On top of it,in order to enhance, justify and reinforce its anti Shugden stance,
    it also fabricates lies and evidence and casts aspersions against Shugden practitioners. Dorje Shugden as Chinese spies indeed paid handsomely by the Chinese government! But there’s not a stitch of real evidence to it!

    Where in the world is there a government, who would take such steps to create such disunity and schism among its own people? It makes no sense to me.

    Thank you team for debunking all these myths created by CTA.

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    Ck siah on Nov 14, 2017 at 11:15 pm

    尊贵的丹巴雅培勇于在藏人行政中央发表批评CTA和乃琼护法时时出差错，误判，误人子弟，种种数出乃琼严重出错误的记戴。而且导致藏人团结分裂。尊贵的丹巴雅培勇的发表是让世人鼓舞的。他的一小步是让西藏人民走出世界的一大步。如今世界大同，中国的开放和掘起，一带一路的思维，走向世界和平的前端。全世界的人都看到了，达赖尊者也看到了吧? 但时过60年了，为何西藏流亡人民还不能回到自己的国度呢? 虽然我们是局外人，可以不管，但身为世界各地的多杰雄登护法修持者，看到的是个个修持者都吉祥如意，和平相处，团结一致。谓西藏人民和流亡政府为多杰雄登护法起争议，多杰雄登修持者严重被排挤和欺压。侵犯了人权，宗教自由，真让世人看不过去。为了维护宗喀巴传承和多杰雄登护法修持者，我们呼吁达赖尊者尽快解放多杰雄登护法修持禁令，让西藏人民可安全回归国度，团结一致，还有人权，宗教自由。这可不是达赖尊者常在世界各地提倡的吗?

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    Julia on Nov 14, 2017 at 10:35 pm

    多杰雄登的修持者不被允许出席达赖尊者的世俗和佛事聚会、不被允许入读藏族学校、不被允许享用藏族医院设施、不被允许在西藏流亡政府中任职，甚至不被允许在一些藏族餐厅用餐。人人一直想不通、为什么要这样对待自己的藏人。这禁令根本就不合逻辑、CTA和尊者含糊不清的理由带给人们混乱、令藏人家人分离和社会纷争不清。这个对西藏独立只有带来负面的影响。CTA并不是一个什么民主的政府、一个最基本的宗教自由的人权都没有、对多杰雄登修行者赶尽杀绝。CTA必须立刻停止禁令删除一切负面的行为，让藏人再次团结一致，这样藏人才有希望。

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    LT Loo on Nov 14, 2017 at 9:47 pm

    By the CTA propaganda on it’s anti Shugden messages to the Tibetan and the rest of the world, it caused only confusion to people who are following the Vajrayana sect or other vehicles of Buddhism. It is not very diffricult to pinpoint the fault in CTA’s reasonings on as why should the Shugdenpa be giving up they beliefs and lineage heritage. Everyone can see that Shugden Lama big or small all had been reincarnated back to their monastery and most importantly in human form and continuing their previous practice. If CTA keep on at it, they will make a fool out of themselves and dragged HHDL along with it. Since HHDL is representing Tibetan n Vajrayana as whole, how in the future could someone take interest in Vajrayana practice ? the very essence of Tibetan culture and uniqueness to the world. The whole will be at loss when this happened. :(

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    Choi Sheem on Nov 14, 2017 at 9:21 pm

    Here is my appeal to the CTA and the beautiful Tibetans who have made the ugly allegations on Dorje Shugden practitioners everywhere:

    1. Please do not link us to the Chinese government because of our religious belief and no Chinese government is paying us to practice Dorje Shugden.

    2. Why is the CTA spending such a huge sum of money to publish articles and books to campaign against the worship of Dorje Shugden when you have openly denied to foreign press that there is a ban on Dorje Shugden practice?

    3. Please allow your citizens the freedom to practice the religions or deities they choose. They have been through much sufferings of losing their homes in Tibet, please do let them continue with their religious practice without discrimination.

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    sweekeong on Nov 14, 2017 at 8:54 pm

    How can they spend so much resource to produce a ‘documentary’ and 400-over page publication to say one’s deity and religious practice is bad?

    It is not a government job nor authority to criticize a personal choice. I would be pissed off if my country’s leadership allow religious freedom and turn back and say — No, yours is bad, we advice you to stop. There is no right or wrong faith as long as it doesn’t oppose the law, promote peace and harmony no matter race, gender, faith, etc.

    Thank you to the team who provide the facts to debunk all these misinformation on Dorje Shugden.

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    Yap Yoke Chim on Nov 14, 2017 at 8:37 pm

    CTA在14/11 公佈的視频和長达400页的文章中，掐造指多杰雄登修持者与中国当局挂钩．指他们是极端份子及不尊从达赖尊者以影响局外人误解多杰雄登修持者的形象，但事實却恰恰相反，反而是反的一方用暴力来对付修持的一方及还得面对 CTA 用各种違反人類道德的行为禁止他们过正常人的生活。真是馨竹难書。所以仁波切很清楚及簡单的相关对照讲解与分析，就是希望大众不要被誤導，也了解整個事件真相，是非黑白．如今的世界災难频频，但愿雄登禁令快快解除，以帮助更多有需要的众生，

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    Sharon Ong on Nov 14, 2017 at 8:23 pm

    Thank you to the team who made all of these videos possible. It’s time for Shugdenpas to debunk all the untruths and allegations.

    CTA needs to stop using Dorje Shugden and Shugdenpas to cover up for their failures. If CTA is truly democratic, they would allow all Tibetans to practice whatever faith they choose. Marginalising a group of their own citizens just for their religious beliefs shows how much they actually care for their own citizens.

    It’s 2017 and religious apartheid is still happening. This could easily end if CTA practises REAL democracy and lift the Shugden ban.

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    Yen Pin on Nov 14, 2017 at 7:59 pm

    感谢尊贵的仁波切，各位的努力付出，

    佛法是包容，慈悲与引导一切有情众生向善的道路，我不明白为什么CTA如此大费周章的一直花费金钱，精力等，并且非常专注在于诋毁或误导有关与多杰雄登护法的正确咨询与传承，多杰雄登护法已经经历了超过400多年的传承，并且得到许多格鲁，萨迦等派高僧大德众生修持多杰雄登护法法门，并还撰写出许多给予多杰雄登护法的礼赞文，祈愿文，仪轨等。我不明白为什么CTA却花费时间，金钱等在这方面，而不是专注与照顾藏族人民的未来。

    然而感谢尊贵的詹杜固仁波切与各位师兄姐们，给予我们逻辑的讲解与让我们明白正确的多杰雄登护法的教诲，咨询与传承

    感谢尊贵的Rinpoche和各位，在背后付出的努力。

    逻辑讲解给我们知道，让我们明白多杰雄登护法的教诲，传承。

    400多年的传承，高僧大德众生修持多杰雄登护法法门，多杰雄登护法已经经历了超过400多年的传承。

    真不明白为什么CTA还要一直的说修习多杰雄登会让我们坠入三恶趣、会伤害达赖喇嘛等等。

    而且多杰雄登禁令已经存在多年，说了也说了这么多年，修习多杰雄登会坠入三恶趣、带来伤害，事实证明这是不存在的，所以的高僧大德众生修持多杰雄登护法法门，还是一样转世会来，多杰雄登护法法门不会有任何伤害。

    感谢尊贵的仁波切，各位的努力付出，
    做了这么的翻译，有藏文，尼泊尔文，中文，英文，等等，讲解给大家清楚了解多杰雄登护法法门，教诲，传承。

    谢谢
    Yenpin

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    Alice Tay on Nov 14, 2017 at 7:38 pm

    Tibetan Government’s Constitution in Article 9 and 10 clearly indicated that every Tibetan people has right and freedom of religion. But in reality, CTA has enacted differently just to target and demonise Dorje Shugden since 1996. From that day on, many Shugden practitioners are suffered until today due to the government not truly practice and take actions based on the human rights as written clearly in the constitution.

    Thank you Rinpoche and the team worked tirelessly to get all these information on the Shugden ban. All these videos are cleared to point out this illogical and inhumanity ban caused the people suffered a lot.

    Please lift the ban. It is enough for the Tibetan people suffered for the past 2 decades.

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    Irene Lim on Nov 14, 2017 at 7:05 pm

    Many Dorje Shugden people are not anti Dalai Lama, they in fact love the Dalai Lama but are made anti Dalai Lama by the CTA. CTA claims to be democratic but huge evidences are pointing out that CTA is behind the persecution of Shugden people. This is violating its own constituent to protect the rights of the people to have freedom of religion. Please wake up CTA, we are in the 21st century, no longer in ancient Tibet in an archaic style of administration. This ban on Dorje Shugden is so wrong and inhumane. Please stop it immediately.

    I would like to thank all the team here for the insightful and clarifying videos. I pray the information here will clear the misinformation and prejudice on the Shugden conflict and see the light.

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    Wai Meng Wan on Nov 14, 2017 at 4:00 pm

    Video: Appeal to the Dalai Lama : We do need to appeal to the Dalai Lama to lift the Dorje Shugden ban and remove all the after effects of the ban. We do respect the Dalai Lama, but still there is a ban enacted across the Tibetan settlements so the ban has to opposed. It has been 20 years that Dorje Shugden practitioners and lamas, are labelled as pariah, in India or elsewhere. I don’t think it is right to have this dark cloud on spiritual practitioners of the Dorje Shugden, if one promotes the stigma because certain practitioners are doing so much negative actions, perhaps there is merit about to propagate that stigma. However there are so much evidence that Dorje Shugden people and practice only benefits. It is also true that, the Dalai Lama has said in 2016, that Dorje Shugden people can do the practice, that is true and is defiance by the CTA for making an anti Shugden Video. Although the Dalai Lamas said people can practice Dorje Shugden, CTA is still maintaining the Dorje Shugden ban and enforces it within the Tibetan settlements.

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    Wai Meng Wan on Nov 14, 2017 at 3:47 pm

    Video: A Body of Evidence The mounting evidence on the Dorje Shugden, has been documented on so many medium and social media and other platforms. There are documented instances of the ban from monks and laity. Not to forget the wall that sits between Shar Gaden and Gaden Monastery. As Lukar Jam said the Dorje Shugden ban can be resolved easily, yet the CTA drags its feet and proclaims how democratic it is on its websites. CTA is NOT democratic at all.

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    jerry_sito on Nov 14, 2017 at 2:39 pm

    感谢尊贵的仁波切与各位师兄姐们的努力付出，

    佛法是包容，慈悲与引导一切有情众生向善的道路，我不明白为什么CTA如此大费周章的一直花费金钱，精力等，并且非常专注在于诋毁或误导有关与多杰雄登护法的正确咨询与传承，多杰雄登护法已经经历了超过400多年的传承，并且得到许多格鲁，萨迦等派高僧大德众生修持多杰雄登护法法门，并还撰写出许多给予多杰雄登护法的礼赞文，祈愿文，仪轨等。我不明白为什么CTA却花费时间，金钱等在这方面，而不是专注与照顾藏族人民的未来。

    然而感谢尊贵的詹杜固仁波切与各位师兄姐们，给予我们逻辑的讲解与让我们明白正确的多杰雄登护法的教诲，咨询与传承

    感恩
    Jerry Sito

    

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    Carmen Koo on Nov 14, 2017 at 2:37 pm

    Where in the world is there a government who produces materials to discriminate an entire sect of religious practitioners? Why is the Tibetan Leadership even involved in religious affairs when they have so much political works to handle?

    It is not okay that the leadership uses this method to split, de-stablize, de-harmonise its people, when all the funds they receive are for the country and its people. There should not be segregation for funds and use it to further create despair amongst its people – who does that? did the donors give them permission to? It is not democratic at all, and no wonder Tibetans are still refugees after 60 years with a leadership that exploits its own kind.

    It is not nice to just call DS practitioners Chinese Spies and Dogs just because they practice Dorje Shugden. What logic is there? Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche Dorje Chang was faithful and propagated and practiced Dorje Shugden till the end of his life. Is he a Chinese spy? Of course not! So why are people continuing to taint and taunt Dorje Shugden practitioners, when there is no basis to. It’s absurd. And what is worst of all, is that the Tibetan not only allows it, but promotes this doing further.

    Thank you for all the videos to counter the baseless, unfair, undemocractic, illogical ban on Dorje Shugden! Thank you Tsem Rinpoche!

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    Fong on Nov 14, 2017 at 2:30 pm

    The CTA’s video are rehashing the same old rhetoric of the greed and ill intent of the Dorje Shugden practitioners and denial of the ban. The greed in being paid by China to go against the Dalai Lama, the ill intent by practicing Dorje Shugden so as to harm the Dalai Lama, that there is no ban/discrimination.

    These allegations are well answered in video 1 and Video 2 and Video 4. In fact, all the videos gives very good rebuttals of the various accusations put forward by CTA. The comments are very clear and precise.

    It would definitely be more meaningful for the government i.e. CTA to put their resources for the benefit of the Tibetans in exile than to continue this discrimination as a smoke screen for whatever their true intention is. As Buddhists, we want to practice in peace and harmony and not practice a religion as a means to bring harm to anyone.

    It is time to put politics in the back burner where religion is concerned.

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    Stella Cheang on Nov 14, 2017 at 2:29 pm

    Thank you for all the info on how illogical the ban on Dorje Shugden is. CTA had not achieved anything substantial for Tiebtans since the 50 years ago, and they use DOrje Shugden as a scape goat to cover up their failure. It is despisable that CTA uses money that supposedly can benefit the people to publish articles, books and fund websites and internet trolls to demonise, intimidate, bully and threaten Dorje Shugden people. Which democratic government in the world does this? We must not let this ridiculous ban continue.

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    Sock Wan on Nov 14, 2017 at 11:50 am

    Thank you for sharing with us more information on the ban and the illogical reasons Dorje Shugden practice is banned.

    CTA spent so much money to publish books, make videos to condemn a belief that is practised by their own people, indirectly encourage their own people to segregate themselves. If there is no unity, you can never talk about getting your own country back. The issue CTA has to resolve really is the separation lies between their own people, that is what a leadership should do. No parents will ask their own children to hate each other, no family wants disharmony and disagreement among the family members. If all Tibetans are the children of CTA, why won’t CTA resolve the issue of segregation? In contradictory, CTA encourages segregation by imposing the ban, encouraging Tibetan people to be hostile to their own people. If you ask me why after 60 years CTA still fail to materialise their promise of getting their country back, this is the very reason.

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    Valentina Suhendra on Oct 22, 2017 at 8:29 pm

    Great message every Tibetan especially must read!

    

    

    

    

    

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    Tsem Rinpoche on Oct 9, 2017 at 9:47 am

    I still love and miss His Holiness the Dalai Lama. I am hoping he will unite all of us no matter what our religion is. I know he will. His Holiness has done so much good in the world. I’ve admired him since I was a very young boy and when I met him for the first time in 1979. He came to Howell, New Jersey where I grew up. It was magical to see him. I pray one day he will accept all Dorje Shugden practitioners as was his root guru was a Dorje Shugden practitioner and invite us into his presence again with love and acceptance. I pray for his long life and continued presence in this world. I never lost hope in His Holiness the Dalai Lama to accept all of us regardless of race, religion, sect and background once again.
    I place my unworthy head to his feet, Humbly, Tsem Rinpoche https://www.tsemrinpoche.com

    

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    Pastor Niral Patel on Jul 28, 2017 at 10:30 am

    This is a powerful picture of Geshe Tsultrim Gyeltsen, Kensur Kyabje Lati Rinpoche and the current incarnation of Trijang Rinpoche meeting together in the year 2000 when Trijang Rinpoche was 18. All three lamas are Dorje Shugden practitioners. In fact Geshe Tsultrim Gyeltsen was the one that first encouraged my practice of Dorje Shugden when I was 16 years old when I joined his beautiful Thubten Dhargye Ling centre in Los Angeles. I lived with Geshe Tsultrim Gyeltsen for 8 years before proceeding to Gaden Monastery in South India. Later Kyabje Zong Rinpoche came to our Los Angeles centre and granted sogtae (permission ceremony) to practice Dorje Shugden for life as requested by Geshe Tsultrim Gyeltsen. Geshe Tsultrim Gyeltsen had tremendous faith in Trijang Rinpoche. Kyabje Lati Rinpoche was innovative, dedicated and very much focused on bringing dharma to many. He had tremendous faith in Dorje Shugden as I had the honour to meet him many times. He would seek advice from Dorje Shugden many times via the oracle of Gaden Monastery. Geshe Tsultrim Gyeltsen and Kensur Kyabje Lati Rinpoche have since passed away while the current Trijang Rinpoche is a perfect lineage holder and practitioner of Dharma while he keeps Dorje Shugden as his personal protector as he has done so for many lifetimes. This is a powerful and beautiful picture of three great lamas of Buddha’s lineage and also of Gaden Monastery.

    ~Tsem Rinpoche

    

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    MartinC on Feb 9, 2017 at 2:18 am

    I am glad to see this comment by ‘Suzy in Hawaii’ on Tsem Rinpoche’s YouTube Chanel. After all this time more and more people who bother to look beyond hearsay and prejudice are beginning to see the goodness of Dorje Shugdenand benefit from it. Go see what Suzy wrote – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl-4lIwxph4&t=11s

    

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    anil on Jan 12, 2017 at 6:44 pm

    Hi my name anil kumar

    

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    Echeah on Dec 25, 2016 at 8:02 pm

    First of all, thank you Li Kim, Martin, Pastor Jin Ai and Pastor Niral for making and releasing these great videos. I must say your voices are very clear. The message you shared is lucid, articulate and lays out all the facts and evidence that the CTA initiated the ban on Dorje Shugden practice, instigated people worldwide to discriminate against Dorje Shugden practitioners, have maintained the ban up till today, against H.H. the Dalai Lama’s statement that we can practice. On the one hand they have officially banned the practice and on the other hand now they say there is no ban. Are they a confused lot? By issuing this video, they totally lose credibility.

    The CTA over the past 20 years when they issued the ban and beyond, even from the time they killed Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen, have cause so much harm to their own Tibetan people and split them, pitting one group of Tibetans against another. How is it that they are championing the cause of the Tibetan people? They try to position themselves as defending H.H. the Dalai Lama but are in fact being defiant against his message of compassion.

    Why do they keep doing this when all evidence is against them? What are they trying to hide? If they are really Buddhists, then their actions are contrary to Buddhist teachings. They have murdered, plundered and piled on lies upon lies, their latest being this video which contain nothing but lies and inconsistencies. Yet anti-Shugden people worldwide have been so deeply brainwashed, they still cannot see this and continue their tirade.

    Not only have the CTA greatly harmed themselves and Tibetans, they have caused many people worldwide who have been manipulated by them to also do the same. The karmic repercussions I imagine, could be massive.

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    sonny tan on Dec 21, 2016 at 2:11 pm

    Thank you Kechara team for producing such refine videos and the proper and clear explanations debunking the allegations by the CTA. It is clearly shown in the Kechara video that there is without doubt a segregation and discrimination against Dorje Shugden practitioners.
    CTA alleged that Shugden practitioners are in cahoots with China and being financially supported by them has been proven time and again that there is no substantial evidence to support such insinuations. In short CTA are just blowing hot air.
    It is more than half a century now and CTA has not even moved closer to a truce or a peace plan to enable the exile Tibetans to live peacefully and returned to their motherland. It is without doubt a big failure on the CTA part and though this failure they found a scapegoat to point their fingers unfortunately it was directed at Shugden practitioners.
    Shugden practitioners have also been classified as a cult but I beg to differ and I would like to defend such profanity and unsupported wild allegations thrown at Shugden practitioners. I joined Kechara about a year ago and up till now I found no such truths as a matter of fact there is no psychological coercion to make me stay. The profound Buddhist lineage goes back to Lord Buddha’s era is authentic and Dorje Shugden has been in practice for more than 350 years. There are no imperious leaders that will lead one to part with their wealth or a warrant being issued that leaving the order would amount to sinister circumstances. Therefore, I would urge those not to believe in hearsay but to investigate and find out for yourself Kechara religious authenticity.

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    Harold Musetescu on Dec 20, 2016 at 2:21 am

    I read every comment blaming the CTA.

    I read almost every comment asking the Dalai Lama to lift HIS BAN.

    Could someone tell me who is REALLY to blame?

    Is it only the CTA and not really the Dalai Lama who is to blame.

    Can the CTA lift the ban all by itself without first getting permission from the Dalai Lama.

    So who really is to blame for the ban?????

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    Adeline Tan on Dec 20, 2016 at 1:35 am

    CTA is up to their old tricks again by releasing their new anti- Shugden video.
    Thanks to our hard working Kechara team by producing these meaningful videos based on true facts and hard evident to prove that CTA is clearly dictatorship, they discriminate, prejudice and bias against Dorje Shugden practitioners. As a matter of fact, CTA should reunite the Tibetans and work together harmoniously to improve their qualities of lives instead of creating divisions and separations among their own people for the last 20 years causing so much hardship and sufferings for their fellow countrymen. In the name of ‘Mercy’, HHDL please lift the Dorje Shugden ban immediately.

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    Kelsang Tenzin on Dec 19, 2016 at 12:25 am

    I watched the video of Appeal to Dalai Lama. And everything u guys said was real true. Every individual have their own right to practice whatever they want. As my self I practise Dorje Shugden by my own right and about our monastery we practice Dorje Shugden for centuries. As everytime Dalai lama reminds innocent people’s that to practice Dorje Shugden is equal to worship evil spirit or ghost. If that is true what u said is then I have question to you Dalai lama. Were ur tutors wrong practicing Dorje Shugden? U offended ur own tutor. Give religious Freedom.

    Lastly I would like to extend my heartfelt thanks to all the Kechera members for doing such a wonderful job and working so hard to understand peoples who are under delusion of Dalai lama’s statement on practising Dorje Shugden. Thank you!! Kelsang Tenzin [Smile]

    PS: Request to Tsem Rinpoche La if Rinpoche La could revisit our monastery. That would be so greatful to our monastery.

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    Wan Wai Meng on Dec 18, 2016 at 9:43 pm

    Video:Misdirection

    The CTA have been trying to take the citizens of the world, Tibetans and Dorje Shugden for a deadend ride. They have not been able to have any form of impact on China – Tibetan negotiations, in fact the Chinese very much just ignores them. CTA has tried many many tricks, we hope that the world can finally wake up to the reality of CTA, is not the ‘lamb’ it tries to portray to the world. Trying to pin the blame on many issues and people, the expiry date for CTA is coming soon real soon.

    CTA as Martin pointed out has been changing their reason for continuation of the ban on Dorje Shudgen, and anything untoward happens, you friendly Dorje Shugden neighbour is ready for you to lay the blame on. The world is not blind, there is so much tricks CTA can play, even tibetans students are beginning to wonder why CTA perpetrates discrimination on fellow Tibetans. CTA is the type of government who were responsible for the split of the sangha in South India, and yet they twist the words and say they gave freedom for people who wanted to carry on Dorje Shudgen pratice to have their own place. CTA never gives up anything for free, if it does not further their personal agendas in any way.

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    Lew on Dec 18, 2016 at 8:07 pm

    Thank you everyone who are involved in the making of these videos. From the pictures, we can see that are many more people involved on top of the hosts and people who appeared on the video. There are the crew, the project managers, the video editors, etc. A big thank you for everyone!

    These videos are indeed very well done because it posts very logical questions and analysis. Isn’t logical the basis of Buddhism?

    One of the videos, “Body of Evidence” lists many of the discriminations towards Dorje Shugden. You need to watch it yourself to understand what CTA claimed is an outright lie.

    Also, it is unheard of that any government would openly suppress a religion. Therefore, it is totally unacceptable that CTA, a so-called government for the Tibetan In Exile, who is inspired by Buddhism, to carry out this kind of persecution.

    Everyone who are interested to understand the Dorje Shugden controversy, or anyone who are confused as to why CTA’s accusation of Dorje Shugden, these videos are a must watch.

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    Sukhbatar on Dec 17, 2016 at 4:24 pm

    Is India playing the Tibet card?

    It might not have any interest in Tibet per se but it does have useful deterrence value vis-a-vis China.

    P Stobdan

    The recent visit of the 17th Karmapa Lama to Arunachal Pradesh, and India’s support to Mongolia, which is facing Chinese ire over the Dalai Lama’s visit, has once again put the spotlight on India’s Tibet card. Interestingly, the Karmapa was allowed into Tawang after the present government revoked an earlier decision by the Cabinet Committee on Security prohibiting him from travelling within and outside India (he was for long suspected to be a Chinese mole after he landed in India from Tibet in 2000).

    The Karmapa’s visit followed US envoy Richard Verma’s tour to Tawang (which an infuriated China called ‘interference’) and New Delhi’s nod to the Dalai Lama’s visit in March 2017, which too raised eyebrows in Beijing. Interestingly, China did not react sharply to the Karmapa’s Tawang visit, possibly because he is not considered a ‘splitist’ like the Dalai Lama.

    It is not clear whether playing up Tibet is part of the current Indian foreign policy discourse. In a recent speech, foreign secretary S. Jaishankar said that “India and China have put a premium on developing a bilateral relationship and not allowing other considerations to unduly influence their progress” and that “three lost decades compel us to still play catch-up in the relationship”.

    That said, it is also true that India has occasionally played the Tibet card to counter China’s strategic moves. So the new move could be linked, firstly, to New Delhi retaliating to China going ahead with its economic corridor through PoK and its refusal to support India’s effort to put Jaish-e-Mohammed’s Masood Azhar on the UN terror list. Secondly, it could be linked to the preparations under way to decide the future Dalai Lama. So, even as Beijing has decided to find its own 15th Dalai Lama, New Delhi seems determined to forestall any such plan. Now that the Karmapa is viewed as the Dalai Lama’s interim political successor, New Delhi would be tempted to boost his profile. Thirdly, the Indian government has realised the need to mobilise the support of the clergy in other Vajrayana countries like Mongolia to decide the future Dalai Lama. Lastly, Tibet assumes importance in the light of the new administration in the United States. President-elect Donald Trump has already hinted at the US ending its ‘One China’ policy.

    Yet, it is not clear whether India playing the Tibet card would yield anything. Firstly, it has no precedence in selecting a Dalai Lama. Secondly, its tokenism on Tibet for almost seven decades failed to counter Chinese moves such as their activities in PoK and reports about China extending its fibreoptic and connectivity lines to Nepal.
    The Tibet question per se seems unimportant to India, but New Delhi finds it having useful deterrence value vis-a-vis China. It remains a valuable means of forcing China’s reciprocity, especially in dealing with the boundary issue.

    The Tibet issue certainly can’t ignite a war, but the sheltering of the Karmapa and playing up the issue of the next Dalai Lama will ensure a prolonging of the hostility between India and China. The Tibet issue will continue to occupy centre stage whenever there is major strategic discord between India and China.

    Interestingly, India is also seeking to play the Inner Asia geopolitical chess over Lamaism that Chinese imperial courts played traditionally. In fact, until the early 20th century, the Chinese, Tibetans and Mongols were bound in an intricate symbiotic relationship and shaped the political order together. In fact, the Dalai Lama’s recent five-day visit to Mongolia seemed to be aimed at stirring the game his institution has been playing since the 16th century-of reviving the Mongolian ecclesiastical institution built around the 400-year-old spiritual figure of the Jebtsundamba Khutukut or Bogd Khan whose lineage was terminated when the Communist government came to power in 1921. The last, or the ninth, Jebtsundamba was born in Tibet but spent most of his life in Karnataka until November 2011 when he went to Mongolia, only to pass away in March 2012. Discovering the 10th Jebtsundamba will once again be a tight geopolitical contest where the Dalai Lama, and the governments of Mongolia, China and India, have high political stakes in its outcome.

    At the heart of the Dalai Lama’s visit to Mongolia lay the exercise of identifying of the new Jebtsundamba, but only on the fourth day of his visit did he announce that he was convinced (through his wisdom eyes) of the recent rebirth of the Jebtsundamba in Mongolia. He, however, desisted from revealing the boy’s identity. It is possible that the Mongolian state may have aborted the plan fearing Chinese rebuke.
    It is also possible that the Dalai Lama himself withheld the identity for a possible future negotiation with China to jointly agree to identify the 10th Jebtsundamba just as he and Beijing did for the 17th Karmapa in the 1990s. The visit of a high-level Tibetan delegation from China to Mongolia prior to the Dalai Lama’s visit may have been linked to the recognition of the Jebtsundamba.
    Unsurprisingly, Beijing censured Mongolia for taking the ‘erroneous’ step of inviting the Dalai Lama and has taken strong retaliatory action, calling off loan negotiations, imposing border tariffs and cancelling key bilateral talks. China appears angrier this time, especially after it had in recent years succeeded in curtailing the Dalai Lama’s outreach to world capitals.

    Why did Mongolia play the Dalai Lama card? The answer lies in the terrible financial soup it finds itself in. The country is worst hit by the downturn, especially by China’s slowdown, resulting in its growth rate crashing down from 17.3 per cent in 2011 to negative this year.
    Mongolia has gone into massive sovereign default with an external debt of $22.5 billion, twice the country’s GDP. It needs to clear commercial debt of $2 billion as well as another $2.3 billion currency swap agreement with Bank of China due next year. And, so far, Mongolia’s negotiation with China for a $4.2 billion bailout hasn’t worked.
    Since the end of the Cold War, Mongolia has been unable to play its two giant neighbours-Russia and China-against each other. Then it included US and Japan as its ‘third neighbours’ to play its strategic game. But clearly, Mongolia’s ‘third neighbours’, whom China despises, seem unable to bail it out of its repayment obligations. And it is here that the Dalai Lama and India come in. Mongolian foreign policy defines India as its ‘spiritual neighbour’. A reason why, after the Dalai Lama card failed to yield results, Mongolia quickly sought an Indian bailout on ‘spiritual’ grounds, as well as ‘clear support’ against China’s transport obstruction imposed following the Dalai Lama’s visit. The Mongolian envoy in New Delhi told the media that India not raising its voice could be construed as giving China a ‘pass’ for its ‘behaviour’, The underlying suggestion being that India had a hand in the Dalai Lama’s Mongolia visit and its fallout.

    China has already warned Mongolia against seeking Indian help. Its official media termed the step “politically harebrained” and said that “Mongolia cannot afford the risks of such geopolitical games”.
    The issue is about India’s credit line of $1 billion offered during Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit last year that Mongolia now wants released for meeting its fiscal needs. However, it is difficult to imagine how India could help solve the country’s existential problems, especially its debt burden. There seems to be no precedent of India converting its line of credit to service the debt of another country.
    While Mongolia’s plea on ‘spiritual’ grounds is appealing, others caution against playing such a game knowing what happened when India went out of its way to help Nepal. Also, it’s not that India will get anything in return. Mongolia is a distant country with which even a minimum trade cannot take place without transiting through China.
    As expected from a land-locked country, Mongolia quickly withdrew from standing up for India despite its strong commitment to work together on issues like terrorism. Barely a year after Prime Minister Modi’s visit to Ulaanbaatar, it was disappointing in its response to the attack in Uri, the Mongolian foreign ministry issuing only a meek statement expressing ‘regret’ . The country’s opportunism became clearer when its foreign ministry even refused to meet the Indian envoy in Ulaanbaatar for months. Mongolia has no substantive ties with Pakistan, but it was surely acting on China’s advice to stay away from firmly supporting India on terrorism.

    India should certainly be sympathetic to Mongolia and approach the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank to provide relief besides implementing its own promised $1 billion credit line to support Mongolia’s economic capacity and infrastructure, but it should steer clear of the Mongolia-China spat. Undoubtedly, the Mongolian crisis would end soon because both Mongolia and China will find a modus vivendi. Perhaps Ulaanbaatar might be willing to host a visit by the Chinese Panchen Lama.
    The author is a former ambassador and an expert of Asian affairs

    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/tibet-india-dalai-lama-china-un/1/834875.html

    [This is a very interesting and provocative article. It would be good news if His Holiness the Panchen Lama Rinpoche visits our country of Mongolia. Mongolia has a long history of connections with the line of Panchen Lama Rinpoche incarnations. It would push our spiritual progress further and also make our connections to China repaired. We Mongolians hope Panchen Lama Rinpoche will visit and bless our country of Mongolia. We need the blessings very much. Sukhbatar]

    

    

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    Pastor Antoinette on Dec 17, 2016 at 4:40 am

    Thank you for these videos! It is not believeable that a government who wants to call themselves democratic is acting in such discriminating ways against a religion. Dorje Shugden practitioners have to suffer since 20 years segregation beyond imagination! Being outcast from their communities, second class citizens (or worse, in brief no equal rights on a daily basis compared to non-Dorje Shugden followers as explained in the videos.

    This is not a democratic government! This is a shame and shows that they don’t care for their people at all! Dorje Shugden was widely spread in the monasteries and the lay communities. Families and friends have been split because of the ban. Instead of improving the conditions for their people, the CTA spends their money for anti-Shugden videos – what government does that?

    It is time to stop this unequality! HH Dalai Lama please end the Dorje Shugden ban and end the suffering of so many people. Tibet needs unity and harmony for the benefit of all Tibwtans. We beg you, release the Dorje Shugden ban.

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    Choong on Dec 17, 2016 at 12:01 am

    The CTA has not achieved anything substantial for the Tibetans in exile and this has pushed it to take its anti-Dorje Shugden stance to the limit to bring some kind of legitimacy for it to exist.

    There is no logic to it and increasingly no support.

    As Tibetans wise-up to the CTA’s shenanigans, the CTA better change tack or will be voted out sooner or later.

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    Adrian Chow on Dec 16, 2016 at 6:19 pm

    Thank you for all the hard work for producing these videos to explain clearly of the wrongs of CTA’s illogical actions, the ban on Dorje Shugden and supposedly Dorje Shugden’s practitioners are being paid and link to China as anti-His Holiness and Tibet.

    A Tibetan Government-In-Exile, a Buddhist nation continuously feeding false information with the hope many will believe Dorje Shugden’s practice is behind CTA failure and downfall in pursuing their objective of returning to their homeland. And I thought as a Buddhist we aren’t supposed to lie. How ironic.

    With all the wisdom and compassion HH Dalai Lama, please end the confusion and suffering by lifting the ban.
    Thank You.

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57. 

    Uncle Eddie on Dec 16, 2016 at 12:14 pm

    We are aware that Buddhism is a method for controlling the undisciplined mind in order to lead us away from the suffering to happiness! By practising these virtues, which can only be cultivated with mindfulness, practitoners create protection and security to safeguard themselves and others too. In practising Buddhism to serve ourselves and others, by avoiding doing evil, performing only what is good and purifying our mind and heart – This forms the crux of what all Buddhas teach. That is exactly what all Kechara practitioners have been practicing and executing in their daily lives! But, what have been alleged in the captioned videos, is that “we in Kechara are accused that we still do maintain our practice of our “Dharma Protector” Dorje Shugden, because it was due to some pay-outs received by Kechara practitioners and were told to do so! Such accusation and assumption are totally fabrication and baseless, and such kind of false accusation and allegation used to delude and misled the public is totally wrong, harmful, dangerous and must be stopped! Like Li Kim said, Dorje Shugden practitioners have every right to practise freely, for which in Malaysia every citizen has such right! Please lift this Ban to stop such discrimination, and to stop further spreading of false rumours and accusations!

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    Li Kim on Dec 16, 2016 at 3:28 am

    It is an honour to have worked on these videos. I thank Martin, Pastor Jean Ai, Pastor Niral, Beng Kooi and the production crew for the hard work and efforts in producing these videos. I pray that the content shared in these videos will resonate deeply with the millions of people out there. I am not just addressing the Shugden practitioners, but all human race. Like I said in the video, “Just because it is not happening to us directly, it does not mean it does not exist.” In Malaysia we have the privilege of religious freedom but it does not mean we do not feel the plight of the Shugden practitioners who are tortured for their choice of faith. Just because we are in Malaysia does not mean we do not make a stand for what is wrong and inhumane. The false presentation of the CTA to delude and misguide millions must stop! With the deepest humility, I ask all of you to make a stand. State your views and support to lift this horrible injustice. Shugden practitioners must practise freely; give them their rights. Stop the discrimination. Lift the Ban.

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      Harold Musetescu on Dec 16, 2016 at 7:23 am

      Hello Li Kim

      Thank you for all your personal efforts in these videos.

      Why has the Dalai Lama remained “Silent” on these new developments by HIS CTA?

      Does not his public silence show that he condones the CTA’s views?

      If he does in fact disagree and the CTA knows that why oh why would they have done the video?

      Logic would dictate that the CTA would have first told the Dalai Lama what their plans were prior to releasing their video and 400 pages of so called documents.

      The CTA would not dare to do this without first obtaining the “Permission” of the 14th Dalai Lama. It does not make any sense that they would do anything to upset their Dalai Lama. They more than anyone else know what it mean to receive the full wrath of the Dalai Lama anger.

      I and the Tengyeling Oracle believe that the Dalai Lama is totally and solely behind these new efforts.

      The CTA is the “Puppet Government” for their “Puppet Master” the 14th Dalai Lama.

      I wish you, your family, Tsem Tulku and all his followers the very best wishes this Christmas and have a Happy Year.

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    Wan Wai Meng on Dec 15, 2016 at 10:03 am

    CTA’s role about Shugden Conflict

    Watching this video, it is so very clear that the CTA who are in power amongst Tibetan in exiles have targeted the Dorje Shudgen people. Discrimination and suppression has happened for over 20 years now. Very clearly, CTA does not have anyone who propitiates Dorje Shudgen working in the government, in fact many circulars and memos have leaked out showing that CTA has asked their own people to abandon their the Dorje Shudgen practice and they will be asked to resign.

    I agree with Martin that, criminals are across all faiths and religions, even if there was a negative act by someone who is from a certain belief, it does not mean, we can single them out for discrimination and for them to be targeted. Good and bad people occur in all faiths and people, does that mean anti Shugden people, do not ever break laws? It is infantile of CTA as a government, and its leader to put on their websites, and take measures against Dorje Shudgen people based on a murder allegation that is being pinned on Dorje Shugden people.

    Hit list on Dorje Shudgen people is very interesting, archaic manner that CTA tries to suppress Dorje Shudgen people, lamas and practitioners. CTA views and measures have split their people for the longest time. How can CTA who suppress a section of their people, how would this create the causes for no independence and freedom? Create suppression, get suppression right? Why would any well-educated personage across the globe would want to support an institution that fights for Freedom, that also suppresses others?

    I would really be embarrassed to be ruled by CTA, due to their policies that are very short-sighted and lacking vision and logic for that matter. 20 years CTA, has fumbled with their policies, I hope CTA instead of coming up with half baked strategies and policies, they would extend some time to have dialogue with Dorje Shugden leadership.

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    Sofi on Dec 15, 2016 at 6:22 am

    Thank you Rinpoche and the team for such clearly explained videos of the wrongs of CTA’s illogical actions, the ban on Dorje Shugden and the supposed link to CCP as spies. The videos really helped to debunk many of the “facts” presented by CTA against Dorje Shugden and his practitioners. It really is illogical for a government to spend so much time, effort and money into propaganda materials against a religion which they proclaim ‘NO BAN’. What more, using money sponsored by kind donors which was intended to help the Tibetan refugees elevate their living conditions and to reintegrate into the society. At the very time when CTA spent huge sum of money on Anti-Shugden documentaries and 400 pages long booklets, their people are facing great financial difficulties from drought in South India. Why had they not channelled the money into helping them instead of unnecessary wastage against a 400 years old religious practice. Then CTA had the audacity to ask for more donations for the drought victims. My personal opinion would be that CTA had spent too long a time living off the goodwill of well-wishers and no longer knows how to survive reality of the world.

    I find that CTA linking Shugden practitioners to being CCP spies another illogical decision as there are 4 millions Shugden practitioners worldwide, not only Tibetans but Americans, British, Canadians, Swiss, Italians, Malaysian, Taiwanese, etc. So are these citizens of sovereign countries also Chinese spies? And another point mentioned was that Dorje Shugden had been practised 400 years, so does that mean all those who practiced since then had been Chinese spies? I might add that from the 5th Dalai Lama, the subsequent Dalai Lamas had been practicing Dorje Shugden as well.

    The 14th Dalai Lama who has the same mindstream as his previous incarnations and known to be the emanation of Buddha Avalokiteshvara, had practiced Dorje Shugden for 30 years before suddenly declaring him ‘harmful’. Then recently in September 2016 he declared that Dorje Shugden had never and can never harm him nor the Tibetan cause. He also said there is no ban and that we are free to practice as we wish. But contrary to his statements, CTA is still very much hands on in enforcing the ban especially with the release of the documentary and 400 pages long booklet in November 2016. I personally feel that the Dalai Lama need to acknowledge that there is a ban and seeing the great sufferings of his people, not to mentioned especially harmful to the Buddhadharma, with compassion, he should firmly declare it lifted. As the Dalai Lama is still strongly revered by most Buddhist communities around the world, including ourselves in Kechara, his words would mean law for CTA to follow.

    In Buddhism we are taught impermanence and in this wisdom, the Dalai Lama had changed to request for Autonomy rule of Tibet. In view that the world economy is centered around trade agreements with China, CTA should have already stopped all fronts of harassment at China and start making overtures to befriend China for that long awaited dialogue for Tibetans-in-exile’s return to their homeland. CTA should lift the ban on Dorje Shugden immediately and stop all forms of attacks on Shugden Lamas and practitioners. I am just amazed at the daily vulgar lies by Cyber attackers that not only tarnish the Shugden Lamas (including our Guru) and their beneficial teachings that helped countless people out of sufferings. Even our the credibility of our lineage Gurus were not spared in the attacks. Imagine all the grave negative karmas created that not only the individual but the world has to bear, now and in the future.

    Kudos to Martin, Li Kim, Pastor Jean Ai, Pastor Niral, Beng Kooi and the shoot team for their hardwork in bringing the truth to the people. May CTA have the courage to do the right thing and swiftly lift the Ban. May the Dalai Lama’s wishes be fulfilled, for Tibetans to be able to return to their homes if they so wish and for many to be able to receive the benefits of Dorje Shugden practice with trust and faith.

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    Harold Musetescu on Dec 15, 2016 at 2:12 am

    We can use the “Wrathful Mantra” of Methar against the
    CTA. The Mantra is “Om Methar Shatroo Maraya Phet”.

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      Bradley Kassian on Dec 15, 2016 at 6:20 am

      Would that not contradict what dharma protectors are used for? Their job is to remove your obstacles for dharma practice & study, not for trying to harm a government; Even an unenlightened oath bound protector won’t assist in that (even if they have a score to settle) because they swore not to cause anymore harm. The only way they would get involved would be to influence people towards the positive and maybe get rid of some of the “red tape” bureaucratic stuff on the side. Anyway Harold, I wanted to ask where did you get the wrathful mantra of Methar from?

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        Harold Musetescu on Dec 15, 2016 at 7:57 am

        Hello Bradley

        The wrathul mantra of Methar comes from Methar via the Tengyeling Oracle. It was the present day Tengyeling Oracle who gave Tsem Tulku the peaceful mantra for Methar (Om Methar sarva siddhi hung). He also provided Rinpoche with the visualization for the wrathful former of Methar. It was also this Oracle that provided the information about H.H. Demo Tulku, Ngari Tulku being innocent of the crimes they were murdered for. H.E. Tsem Tulku wrote about this in the articles on Methar and “The Spirit Nyatrul”. The Tengyeling Oracle can no be reached via email at “dharmafrauds@gmail.com”.

        Also Bradley if you read Rinpoche’s article on “Methar” you will read how he states that “Methar uses his mala (made of human skulls) to count the people he has “slain”.

        The general public teaching are what you speak about but the inner and secrets teaches are about “Dharmapalas” engages in the “Rite of Liberation, the Great Act of Compassion Ritual” against evil humans and demons.” Just as we have “Phurba” practices that are used to “Kill evil demons and spirits”. The “Phurba Masters” liberates (kills) the evil demon or spirit and then in an act of compassion sends the consciousness to a “Pure Land” i.e. Varjapani’s pure land of “Changlechen”. This is what the “Dharmapalas” can also do for us if we are under attack and need this kind of “Special Protection”.

        I hope this answers some of your questions.

        Merry Christmas

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          Bradley Kassian on Dec 15, 2016 at 8:52 am

          Thank you 🙂 and Happy Holidays!

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62. 

    graceleong on Dec 15, 2016 at 12:21 am

    The video issued by the CTA on 14th Nov Allegations vs Fact’s on Dorje Shugden practitioners was a downright disappointment as it was basically just a compilation of lame, baseless points which they have continuously highlighted before, but clearly without substance or proof. It’s even more irritating when one contemplates on the amount of resources spent on creating the video which spreads lies instead of going down to the ground to give real help to their own people. The CTA is spending money to create more chaos and inviting people to discriminate further their own brothers and sisters. What is their motivation ? Is there something real to proof or just just hoping to create a diversion away from their own weaknesses and failure to do anything for Tibet and Tibetans.
    This desperate move by the CTA further shows their unprofessionalism and lack of skill and wisdom to deal with the real challenge – CHINA !! Because they got NOTHING out of China in their negotiations, they blame it on Dorje Shugden and the DS monks and practitioners. How can the CTA represent Tibetans and help preserve the sacred teachings of Tibetan Buddhism ? The pure Dharma will degenerate in their hands !

    The videos recorded by the group of dedicated students of HE Tsem Tulku Rinplche contains very valid points to prove how misleading CTA”s video is. Great work !! Thank you !!

    Dalai Lama with all your wisdom and compassion must be more affirmative to bring justice to Dorje Shugden and the practitioners. With folded hands .

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63. 

    Lum Kok Luen on Dec 14, 2016 at 11:23 pm

    This new, unbelievable and wildly accusative video released by the CTA shows how desperate they are in this whole Shugden controversy. For over 20 years, this controversy have caused so much needless sufferings, families being torn apart, and worst of all, schism caused in a lot of Tibetan monasteries and spreading across the world.

    It is very clear that the CTA is infringing and condescending onto every Buddhist that they conform to their wish to stop practicing Shugden. Thus, with this statement coming from them, they re actually infringing on Malaysian Buddhists’ rights to religious freedom. Malaysia’s citizens are free to practice whichever religion they prefer and this is enshrined in Malaysia’s Constitution. The CTA is infringing on this and it is not right.

    I would urge the entire CTA team to do serious self-reflection and contemplate Buddha’s teachings on equanimity on all sentient beings without exception. Do not simply accuse another party just because they don’t conform to your own views. This is not right. And it has to stop.

    I appreciate deeply the entire Kechara team to come up with such wonderful, factual and rational presentation of the entire controversy and to seek reconciliation amongst all so that we all grow in our Dharma journey. To start off, it is important not to show hate, anger or throw accusations towards other human beings.

    We are all Buddhists and wishing to seek Liberation, don’t you too CTA?

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    Choong on Dec 14, 2016 at 9:39 pm

    The quotes below are from the CTA staff writer report on the day of the launch of the “new” documentary and book to “counter the false narrative of dogyal group”.

    The purpose of this comment and response is to show how desperate and untruthful the CTA is, to falsely pin each and every supporter of religious freedom in the world who happen to be Dorje Shugden practitioners or symphatizers, as agents or salaried men of the Chinese government.

    The CTA is desperate, especially after His Holiness Dalai Lama has recently said that he has never been against Dorje Shugden practitioners. The CTA has no legitimacy left. Indeed as the above videos argue, they are acting against His Holiness Dalai Lama’s wishes.

    Source:
    http://tibet.net/2016/11/sikyong-launches-new-documentary-film-and-book-on-dolgyal-to-counter-false-narrative-of-dolgyal-groups/

    “It is with the objective of clarifying the Tibetan administration’s stand and to expose the blatant contortion of facts by these misguided fringe groups that we are releasing this book and film to provide factual and truthful information on the matter.”

    They are calling Dorje Shugden practitioners “fringe” when in actuality today there are millions whether inside or outside India and Tibet.

    “A few misguided people manipulated by the Chinese government have been regularly protesting at teaching venues of His Holiness the Dalai Lama in Europe and the US in the past few years. However, there has been a dramatic decrease in their activities since the publication of a Reuters article exposing their complicity with the Chinese government in March.”

    These “few misguided people” represent millions. There are many, many more who because of strong respect for His Holiness Dalai Lama would not join any protest but that doesn’t mean the they aren’t of the same opinion as the protesters regarding freedom of religious practice.

    “Therefore, we felt it necessary to compile this book and produce this short documentary film to provide a fresh narrative on the issue,” Sikyong explained.

    There’s is nothing fresh that I can see.

    “However, there has been a dramatic decrease in their activities since the publication of a Reuters article exposing their complicity with the Chinese government in March.”

    Haven’t you heard? His Holiness Dalai Lama says whomever wants to practice can practice. So what is there to protest anymore? Maybe you should listen to His Holiness.

    “It is true that Dolgyal protests against His Holiness has abated in the last few months. However, there is a rise in their activities, which are not distinctly visible to the public eye, particularly on social media. It is with this objective that we are releasing this book and film,” she said, expressing her deep concern.

    Since when is social media not visible to the public eye? How can social media be not visible? Clearly, the CTA is once again resorting to the bogeyman for help. Again nothing new.

    “It is clear now that Dolgyal activities have become a tool for the Chinese government to slander His Holiness the Dalai Lama, demean the Tibetan people’s faith in His Holiness and disrupt Tibetan harmony,” she said.

    The same can be leveled against the CTA. That Dogyal activities and the CTA have become a tool for the American government to slander China. The difference is there isn’t any proof that Dorje Shugden practitioners receive any money from China. But it is clear that for decades the CTA has been receiving money from America.

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    VV on Dec 14, 2016 at 9:21 pm

    The quotes below are from the CTA staff writer report on the day of the launch of the “new” documentary and book to “counter the false narrative of dogyal group”.

    The purpose of this comment is to show how desperate and untruthful the CTA is, to falsely pin each and every supporter of religious freedom in the world who happen to be Dorje Shugden practitioners or symphatizers, as agents or salaried men of the Chinese government.

    The CTA is desperate, especially after His Holiness Dalai Lama has recently said that he has never been against practicing Dorje Shugden or its practitioners. The CTA has no legitimacy left. Indeed as the above videos argue, they are acting against His Holiness Dalai Lama’s wishes. They are now naked and bare for all to see.

    Source:
    http://tibet.net/2016/11/sikyong-launches-new-documentary-film-and-book-on-dolgyal-to-counter-false-narrative-of-dolgyal-groups/

    “It is with the objective of clarifying the Tibetan administration’s stand and to expose the blatant contortion of facts by these misguided fringe groups that we are releasing this book and film to provide factual and truthful information on the matter.”

    They are calling Dorje Shugden practitioners “fringe” when in actuality today there are millions whether inside or outside India and Tibet.

    “A few misguided people manipulated by the Chinese government have been regularly protesting at teaching venues of His Holiness the Dalai Lama in Europe and the US in the past few years. However, there has been a dramatic decrease in their activities since the publication of a Reuters article exposing their complicity with the Chinese government in March.”

    These “few misguided people” represent millions. There are many, many more who because of strong respect for His Holiness Dalai Lama would not join any protest but that doesn’t mean the they aren’t of the same opinion as the protesters regarding freedom of religious practice.

    “Therefore, we felt it necessary to compile this book and produce this short documentary film to provide a fresh narrative on the issue,” Sikyong explained.

    There’s is nothing fresh that I can see.

    “However, there has been a dramatic decrease in their activities since the publication of a Reuters article exposing their complicity with the Chinese government in March.”

    Haven’t you heard? His Holiness Dalai Lama says whomever wants to practice can practice. So what is there to protest anymore? Maybe you should listen to His Holiness.

    “It is true that Dolgyal protests against His Holiness has abated in the last few months. However, there is a rise in their activities, which are not distinctly visible to the public eye, particularly on social media. It is with this objective that we are releasing this book and film,” she said, expressing her deep concern.

    Since when is social media not visible to the public eye? How can social media be not visible? Clearly, the CTA is once again resorting to the bogeyman for help. Again, nothing new.

    “It is clear now that Dolgyal activities have become a tool for the Chinese government to slander His Holiness the Dalai Lama, demean the Tibetan people’s faith in His Holiness and disrupt Tibetan harmony,” she said.

    The same can be accused against the CTA. That Dogyal activities and the CTA have become a tool for the American government to slander China.

    The difference is there isn’t any proof that Dorje Shugden practitioners receive any money from China. But it is clear that for decades the CTA has been receiving money from America and its allies.

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      Joy Kam on Dec 15, 2016 at 12:59 am

      Thank you VV… what you say at the very end is very POWERFUL, FACTUAL, the TRUTH and NO ONE CAN DENY for they have so many organisation set up to receive funds but WHERE DOES IT ALL GO?

      “The difference is there isn’t any proof that Dorje Shugden practitioners receive any money from China. But it is clear that for decades the CTA has been receiving money from America and its allies.”

      People keep donating out of good faith and believing in His Holiness and because he is a “monk” so His Holiness name is used in all these so called fund raising campaigns but no one has ever seen them publishing and being transparent where it all goes??? So where does it all end up because as far as we can see, Dharamsala ain’t looking like any advanced city and many are still in living in very bad conditions.

      What does the world know about Tibet? I think the world deserves to know Where all their donations go? That should be asked again and again.

      

      

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    Pastor Han Nee on Dec 14, 2016 at 5:26 pm

    The new video released by CTA is yet another attempt to demonize Dorje Shugden and Shugden practitioners. This is appalling , coming in the wake of H.H. the Dalai Lama himself publicly announcing that we can practice Shugden and that Shugden has never harmed him. It is a show of defiance in the face of what the Dalai Lama has just said.

    To deny that there is a ban and that there is no discrimination against Shugden practitioners is a big lie. There is a solid body of evidence that shows how the ban is working on the ground to discriminate against Shugden people as though they are criminals. First of all, monks were expelled from the monasteries overnight because they refused to give up their practice of Shugden. Shar Gaden and Serpom were set up by the sweat and toil of the expelled monks, under the leadership of compassionate beings like the first abbot of Shar Gaden, Khensur Rinpoche Jetsun Lobsang Phende. Shugden practitioners have been barred from seeking jobs in government departments, from hospitals and shops and their children have also been discriminated against in school.

    To create a new distraction to draw attention from them for their failure to gain Tibet’s freedom, the CTA now raise new spectres or bogeymen and “create the link” of Shugden practitioners with the Chinese Communist Government, saying that the Shugden practitioners are in the pay of China as China spies! The only testimony to this is given by a monk , Lama Tsetse , who has no proof to his allegations about a leaked document revealing that Shugden practitioners are frontmen for the Chinese Government in their fight against Dalai Lama.

    All things considered, it is the responsibility of the Tibetan government to heal the schism within the Tibetan community. Efforts to widen the divide run contrary to Lord Buddha’s injunction especially to the Sangha that they remain harmonious so that the Dharma remains preserved and intact. As it is, the fear is now so real that the Dharma may degenerate and be lost.

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    Wan Wai Meng on Dec 14, 2016 at 12:03 pm

    Allegations of Chinese Links

    My thoughts about these are : –
    -If there was truly evidence, we would know all about it, all over the internet. The article – *China co-opts a Buddhist sect in global effort to smear Dalai Lama* This is mentioned in the article that->
    Reuters has no independent evidence of direct Chinese financing of the protests.

    Why Dorje Shudgen people targeted for being Chinese spies? – When there are so many prominent Tibetan lamas who have good connections to China, and why aren’t they given the same spy treatment? Why only Dorje Shugden people are labelled as spies? Some of these other lamas have also received financial and other support from Chinese people or their Chinese students. If they are not Chinese spies, then neither are Dorje Shudgen people, who do not receive any secret funding from China.

    It is so true that CTA is trying to deflect, and create misdirection of the current status and the state of the tibetan people in exile and Dorje Shugden is an easy scapegoat.

    This video from CTA is like how the Americans who were looking for Weapons of Mass Destruction(WMD) as a pretext to Gulf War and launch a war against the Iraqis. In the end no WMD were found by the Allied forces, it was all a ruse to sell arms and fight a war.

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    Harold Musetescu on Dec 14, 2016 at 10:35 am

    All I read and see on your videos is the CTA, the CTA, the CTA.

    STOP THIS NOW.

    IT IS NOT THE CTA BUT THE DALAI LAMA WHO IS BEHIND ALL THIS.

    The CTA has done all this on the orders of the Dalai Lama.

    Has the Dalai Lama condemned this video NOOOOOOO.

    You don’t have the balls to admit to yourself’s that this video is ALL ABOUT THE DALIA LAMA AND HIS CONTINUED BAN ON THE PRACTICE OF DORJE SHUGDEN.

    It is not the CTA who is behind this video but the DALAI LAMA.

    Do you think that if continue to not mention the Dalai Lama as the EVIL MASTERMIND behind all this that it leaves an opening for the Dalai Lama to change his mind?

    THIS IS THE DALAI LAMA’S VIDEO AND THE CTA ARE JUST HIS PUPPETS.

    WAKE UP.

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      Sarah on Dec 14, 2016 at 11:05 am

      If soldiers refuse to fight, there will be no war.

      Your forceful way of demanding Kechara what they should do with a video they produce is distasteful. You are no different from the CTA or in your view, the Dalai Lama, in your ways of forceful demand. The only difference is your believes and views are polar opposites.

      If you are so dissatisfied with the content of the videos, then you please make a video response and send to Sikyong, then your video can contain all your views.

      I don’t mean to be blunt, but your messages have zero appreciation for those that actually work very hard to lift the ban on shugden. Just because you are not agreeable with their moderate views doesn’t mean its wrong.

      Instead of forcing your views on us so that we do the job for you, why don’t you use all that outspokenness and zest to actually work to lift the ban, in your own point of view. At least that may probably produce some benefit.

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        Harold Musetescu on Dec 14, 2016 at 11:20 am

        Hello Sarah

        So who do you think is really behind the CTA’s video? Is it as it has been claimed by Tsem Tulku and his pastors the CTA?

        Or it really the Dalai Lama? The 14th Dalai Lama has not spoken out against the CTA’s video.

        Sarah do you believe that the CTA would have done all this without first obtaining the approval of the Dalai Lama?

        If it in fact the Dalai Lama who is really the master mind of all this then why does Tsem Tulku say so.

        My questions can be answer by Tsem Tulku contacting Dorje Shugden via the Panglung Kuten. The answer will come from Dorje Shugden and that will be that. Dorje Shugden’s will be the final answer about who is behind this video, the CTA or the Dalai Lama.

        Please Rinpoche contact the Panglung Oracle and ask Dorje Shugden to take trance. Is the Dalai Lama innocent and the CTA the real evil behind their video.

        I believe we the followers of Dorje Shugden need this answer.

        The Tengyeling Oracle has already stated that it is the 14th Dalai Lama who is really behind this new hateful campaign.

        Merry Christmas

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          Abby Foo on Dec 21, 2016 at 11:56 pm

          Dear Harold,

          Everyone has different views and different ways of approach on this matter. Please be clear that to lift the Dorje Shugden ban is NEVER ABOUT WHO TO BLAME. IT IS ABOUT LIFTING THE BAN AND DELIVER OUR APPEAL OUT, no matter to who.

          If you’re looking into who is the one really to be blamed, we can talk for whole day whole night and we will never get a “correct answer”.

          Lets put the focus on lifting the ban and not who to blame. There are so many information and proves to the existing of ban and the suffering of Dorje Shugden practitioners in India especially.

          No matter who you choose to blame, His Holiness or CTA, the ban is still the ban. Don’t go off focus. Have a nice day 🙂

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    Mingwen on Dec 14, 2016 at 10:29 am

    Great information & clarifications for people who are new & not know about and who have been suffering from the Ban of practicing Dorje Shugden, the Great Dharma Protector.

    There are tons of dilemmas about the existence of the BAN of Dorje Shugden. Signages are all over the town in Tibet, people who claimed themselves as the supporters of H H. Dalai Lama are cursing and throwing anger on Dorje Shugden practitioners, which indicate pure & obvious discriminations to the Dorje Shugden practitioners.

    In the another hand, H.H. Dalai Lama has announced that people are allow to practice Dorje Shugden freely. However, it contradicts what is happening terribly for Dorje Shugden practitioners around the world. They call us “Chinese pigs”, “Chinese spies”, “Chinese ghosts”, and more negative labels. I’m a Malaysian Chinese who is practicing Dorje Shugden, of course I’m going to be a Chinese ghost when I’m died, but it’s still rude to label people conveniently without consideration of the others’ feelings, especially those people who claimed themselves as the supporters of H.H. Dalai Lama, they follow H.H Dalai Lama’s shadow but not his light which he teaches us to be acceptance and compassion…=/

    May more & more people could show concern & stand up for the sake for human rights and religious freedom, ultimately it’s for Worldpeace.

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    Jace Chong on Dec 14, 2016 at 9:07 am

    Thanks Rinpoche and the hardworking teams to get these videos and posts done!!!

    After watching the video released by the Tibetan leadership Shugden Protestors: Allegations versus Facts, as a Shugden practitioner who always follow this blog, I found that the video has many loopholes where in facts there are many facts and proves to show the world that the condition is not what they describe in the video.

    After watching the videos on this post, I want to give the team a big applause because it’s well presented and debunking what Tibetan leadership try to say/hide.

    I especially like the 5th video to present very clearly that practicing Dorje Shugden is not going against Dalai Lama, but people who go against Dalai Lama is the Tibetan leadership themselves by encouraging separation and discrimination among the Tibetan community.

    Truth is truth, it’s not because a “country”‘s spending money to make an “official” video would change the truth. What Tibetan leadership has done to their community are well recorded, if not by the public, it’s recorded in their karma.

    Tibetan leadership should not continue this illogical, deceptive policy saying “there is no ban” but yet doing a lot of effort to enhance the ban. By releasing the video itself is another solid proof that there is a ban.

    The ban must end.

    Thank you.

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    Andrea Lai on Dec 14, 2016 at 8:24 am

    Thank you the teams hard work for these videos and very good information and illustration of the ban causes by the CTA.
    I like video #4 and #5, where the discussion provoke alertness of the action by the CTA towards Dorje Shugden’s ban. The CTA totally gives pointless results and it causes more mind triggering.

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    Kunsang on Dec 14, 2016 at 2:44 am

    In Tibetan community people who are against shukden publicly is not necessary they all really hate shukden flowers. There some different reason to against shukden in Tibetans ( 1 ) People love too much Dalai Lama. ( 2 ) People who got a lot benefits from Tibetans government. ( 3 ) People really hate shukden because shukden restrict attend other sect if you are gelukpa, ( 4 ) People fear they become suspicious to shukden flower in community, so against shukden in public to cleaning up self Not really hate to shukden flower. ( 5 ) whether believe religious or not people who try get political benefits from Tibetan government direct or indirectly they pretend proDalai Lama and against shukden flower

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      Joy Kam on Dec 14, 2016 at 6:11 am

      Dear Kunsang,
      Welcome to Tsem Rinpoche’s blog and thank you so much for truthful comment.

      “( 5 ) whether believe religious or not people who try get political benefits from Tibetan government direct or indirectly they pretend proDalai Lama and against shukden flower”

      I see now why Tibetans are so divided, it is obvious it is for self-gain from the Tibetan leadership one way or another. Thank you for sharing this information so we can understand better and clearer why Tibetans attack another innocent Tibetan just because of their differences in belief and practice and how much suffering this ban against Shugden people have caused everyone (Shugden and non-Shugden practitioners alike). There is nothing positive about this ban, if anything is causes more disharmony and problems for everyone, this is why the Dorje Shugden ban and discrimination MUST END.

      For no ( 3 ) People really hate shukden because shukden restrict attend other sect if you are gelukpa – I believe this is to maintain discipline and focus, I guess the human monkey mind is never satisfied with one and always needs to jump from one teaching to the next. This so called restriction is for the benefit of the practitioner, to keep ones motivation in check and not to run around getting all kinds of teachings and in the end practice none or worst getting confused and end up not attaining any results in one’s practice. So there are good reasons and not to discriminate or be sectarian which is the misconception.

      Again I thank you for your honest sharing.

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        Kunsang on Dec 14, 2016 at 12:48 pm

        Hi As I am growing my religious faith is getting shrink because action of some high Guru that we trust as God, Maybe we getting smarter hi hi, I’m not favor about that happening controversial between shukden none shukden.i don’t care shukden exist or not, real people real suffering is problem Thanks such like you none Tibetans participate part of solution and voice,

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          Joy Kam on Dec 14, 2016 at 4:49 pm

          Agree with what you say. Actually the Tibetan Leadership supposedly democratic suppose to focus on that – the people and their needs, their suffering despite race/religion. That is true leaders and leadership bringing their people together and helping everyone. They should unite Tibetans not divide and help Tibetans not segregate further.

          Thank you for your comment! Yes we either be part of the solution or the problem, when we stay silent, we become part of the problem and Tibetans do not need to be further torn a part by their own government/leaders. We are voicing out for the thousands of Tibetans who are Shugden practitioners who are suffering and I am sure indirectly it also helps those who suffer from the dishonest leadership of the exile Tibetan government.

          A good question from the Tibetan video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKdNhi6gXAM&feature=youtu.be is where have all the million/billions of funds donated from the West go? Did it go to improve the livelihood of the Tibetans in exile? Where did the CTA get so much money to produce book and documentary to further discriminate and segregate their own people and another’s religion? This is a good question all Tibetans and non-Tibetan, donors need to ask the CTA. Why do they promote and fund hate and discrimination while His Holiness preach religious tolerance, harmony and compassion.

          There is too much contradictions.

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    Yin ping on Dec 14, 2016 at 2:15 am

    Well done to the amazing team from Kechara who work countless hours tirelessly to produce these 5 videos which are informative, truthful, unbiased and logical to counter the lies in CTA’s video. It is very clear there are discriminations against Dorje Shugden practitioners and the ban exists! The facts and logic highlights issues of religious freedom and human rights in Tibetan people, and also people around the globe. For the sake of humanity, the ban must end.

    This controversy has caused so much conflicts and suffering to millions of practitioners worldwide in the past 20 years. I hope that more people are aware and concern about the ban, stand up against it and bring it down peacefully.

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    Justin Cheah on Dec 14, 2016 at 1:30 am

    Thank you very much to the very hardworking team for producing these videos which met what it was meant for; rebuffing claims and accusations made in the video that CTA produced last month. This is the perfect response for all the issues and hidden truths manipulated by CTA to make it to their advantage. The answers to all the claims are all legit and it is remained to be seen if CTA will be able to deny anymore of the claims made by public (and many are from their very own people). All their so called proof is only flimsy and not strong. Instead of producing video and spread twisted claims, maybe they should invest in making Tibetans livery their lives better in India. So much have been received from donors but nothing has been done for their own people. Is CTA really serving it’s purpose as the government for its people. Or is it even a government now?

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    nicholas on Dec 14, 2016 at 1:19 am

    Thank you so much for the crew that produce this videos. The facts that present in the videos really important to show the world how the Tibetan government manipulate the issues on Dorje Shugden ban and what more shocking here is that after close to 60 years Tibetan government which has been getting financial support not only doesn’t use it to support the real need for their people which in crisis but only focus on spending them to further discriminate their own people religious freedom. Instead of uniting all Tibetan, CTA would rather create more unnecessary separation within their own people to cover their failure in making Tibet stronger. It’s amazing how Tibetan government would exchange their people livelihood for their selfish cover up intention.

    This videos shows all the logic and evident that the Tibetan government has been denying and keep manipulating. The truth cannot be covered and the world will see this unless they really think that the people around the world are easily being fooled by their baseless words.

    The 5th video present with logic that who is really the one that going against His Holiness the Dalai Lama teaching and instruction. His Holiness always preach on peace and compassion. Even His Holiness personally said in France that anyone can practice Shugden but the Tibetan government still going against what he said. Who is the real anti- Dalai Lama here?

    The ban should stop here and now to go in line with His Holiness teaching and for humans right, religious freedom and world peace.

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    pammie yap on Dec 14, 2016 at 1:13 am

    Wonderful videos! Thank you very much for the hard work to all those involved!

    So many points/questions are legit from the videos and it really makes one wonder the authenticity of CTA’s so called No Ban video.

    After all these years, either they incompetent or ignorant. No evidence of discrimination? Unbelievable! If there is no ban, why need to go thru the parliament to enforce an article and print a 400 page book? Why spend so much time and money just to do this? Why don’t the CTA use the money to help their own people? Why does CTA keep harping on Dorje Shugden’s issue if there is no ban? They don’t have anything else to do?

    The point that I really like in the video, is the part that Dorje Shugden is practiced for 400 over years and many great lamas practiced. If they keep saying Dorje Shugden is a ‘devil’ and the practitioners are devil worshippers, then all the great Lamas who practiced, are also the same? I dare say that many of our lineage Gurus have practiced, so does this mean their lineage is not authentic? Then where does that leave all of us who received our teachings and practices from our Guru and the Gurus before Him? And how did these great Lamas reincarnate if they were practicing the ‘devil’? Really illogical.

    Maybe they should read this post https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/dorje-shugden/they-were-not-wrong.html

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    Pastor Henry Ooi on Dec 14, 2016 at 1:01 am

    These are very well done videos, giving lots of logical information to readers to chew on. I like video #4 in which Li Kim did a great job with the presentation. And I love video #5 – it’s casual yet thought provoking. These videos would shed light on the controversial ban on Dorje Shugden practice that results in so many hardship for the practitioners, particularly the sangha community and common people living in India. The plight of these people has been going on for far too long and it must come to an end, a peaceful closure, for dharma teachings to grow and spread. And for the world to know the deceits, fabrication of lies, the underhand tactics CTA has been using for the last two decades on its own people.

    Thank you to all who were involved in these videos production.

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      Harold Musetescu on Dec 14, 2016 at 10:49 am

      Do you, Tsem Rinpoche and the other pastors really believe that it is the CTA and only the CTA who is behind this video?

      Has the Dalai Lama condemned the actions of the CTA in presenting this video? You and Tsem Rinpoche know the answer to my question and it is NOOOOO.

      Does Tsem Tulku think that the CTA did all this without the fore knowledge and consent of the Dalai Lama? NOOOO.

      Why can’t Tsem Tulku or any of his pastors admit that it is the DALAI LAMA AND ONLY THE DALIA LAMA who is behind this video?

      Tsem Tulku should ask that very question to the Panglung Kuten or the Gameng Kuten and Dorje Shugden will tell them the TRUTH.

      WHAT DOES DORJE SHUGEN SAY THROUGH THE PANGLUNG KUTEN AND THE GAMENG KUTEN????? IF TSEM TULKU HAS’T ASKED THEM WHY NOT!!!!!!

      The Tengyeling Oracle has been contacted and he states that Kache Marpo and Methar have told him that it is the Dalai Lama and only the Dalai Lama who is behind this video and new campaign against the followers of Dorje Shugden. They told him that the CTA are the “slave puppets” of the 14th Dalai Lama and they only DO WHAT THE DALAI LAMA TELLS THEM TO DO.

      Merry Christmas from the Tengyeling Oracle.

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    Yeo Kwai Gin on Dec 14, 2016 at 12:10 am

    感恩仁波切与一班弟子们的努力, 分享了这篇文章, 让我更加的了解与明白, 20年以来多杰雄登一直被大家误解和被无证据的指控, 在这文章和视频里可以得到了解。

    在这11月14日,西藏中央政府公布了一个达13分钟的视频和达400页的文章,无证据的讲解关于多杰雄登与中国挂钩,修持雄登就是反抗达赖尊者,雄登修持者是谋杀级端份子等等误导的资讯,导致修持和没有修持雄登法门的修行者都困惑和影响。

    在这五个视频里都很清楚的讲解和分析关于西藏中央政府所带给大家误导性的资讯关于多杰雄登法门,希望在这里可以让大家更加的明白其中的真相。而且, 20年以来至现在,也从无听说过修持雄登法门的高僧大德有做出对他人不利的事或有任何蛊咒他人的祈愿文,反而他们一直无私的都在利益众生,弘扬佛法,而且,众多的高僧大德还一直的不断的转世回来,普渡众生。

    希望更多的人可以用心的去了解和看看这文章和视频,愿多杰雄登的禁令可以尽早解除,修持多杰雄登行者或没修持其法门的行者,大家可以不分你我的一起参与佛法开示,一起鼓励大家修行,不再得到歧视和杯葛。

    感恩合十
    YEO KWAI GIN

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    JP on Dec 13, 2016 at 11:56 pm

    Thank you to all involved in the production of these videos. As a Malaysian citizen, I am not amused to be implicated in Tibetan politics just because of my choice of religion. Accusations that we, as Dorje Shugden practitioners are paid by the Chinese govt to be against HH the Dalai Lama is absurd.

    For a govt to spend public funds to produce a video against a religion instead of using the funds to help their own people in desperate need is shocking and highly suspicious! Perhaps it’s their strategy to divide and rule at the expense of their people’s wellbeing and livelihood.

    I wish so much that these politicians would stop their selfish pursuits and genuinely focus on improving the livelihood of the Tibetans in exile. For the Prime Minister, Lobsang Sangye to even deny that the ban exists shows that he’s either a liar or totally not in touch with what’s happening with his people. Either option, it doesn’t reflect well on Lobsang Sangye.

    I also wish very much that as the ambassador of world peace and a recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize, HH the Dalai Lama will speak up and put a stop to the discrimination of the Dorje Shugden practice and practitioners. Since HH promotes interfaih harmony around the world, why not do the same for his own people.

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    May Ong on Dec 13, 2016 at 11:44 pm

    Pastor Jean Ai, Martin, Pastor Niral and Li Kim debated clearly and logically over all the allegations brought up in the above video by the CTA.

    I liked the point brought up in the discussion on where have all the donations from the world to the Tibetan government gone to? Instead of using that much needed donated funds to help and assist the exiled Tibetan refugees living in India to get through drought and loss of jobs or businesses, the CTA used these funded resource to direct a video to continue to incite hate, prejudice and religious discrimination against Dorje Shugden practitioners in the world, although HH the Dalai Lama said he permitted others to practice DS now if they choose to, freely.

    It was clear that the CTA had no interest to protect the Tibetan community nor keen to improve their livelihood but left their own Tibetan community to fend for themselves on their own.

    The other point that stood out for me is – where are all the hard Facts and evidence that the CTA said the 4 million Shugden practitioners are receiver of China backed funds? They were not able to provide even a receipt nor pictures of such claim as proof. It was just another baseless allegation again.

    The above facts discussed do show that the CTA continue to use Dorje Shugden practice as a political Tool to continue to incite fear and confusion amongst the Tibetan and the International Buddhist community to cover up on their fight on the cause of a free Tibet issue against China and their own weaknesses.

    If the CTA has been sincere, practice wisdom, karma and demonstrate compassion, like what HH the Dalai Lama has been teaching the world, they should sit down now with the Shugdenpa community to hold an Open Debate to settle this Shugden ban as man to man, to resolve, instead of beating around the bush for the world to see and bring the Ban down on Dorje Shugden practice to allow true religious freedom and bring harmony to the Buddhist community in the world.

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    CindyH on Dec 13, 2016 at 11:10 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche and the team who have diligently and tirelessly worked towards the materialisation of these useful videos. With such clear, concise and logical structure in the dissemination of information and facts, not only the hollowness, messy and contradictory positions/statements by CTA are exposed, they also reveal the real picture and truth of the situation. More importantly, such videos can prompt people to think and make an informed decision in respect of this matter. While it is not always easy to speak up about situations, sometimes it is imperative to someone getting better and a situation ceasing to exist. What so many people tend to take for granted is that if you don’t speak up, then maybe no one else will. Further, in this day and age, bullying, harassment, and things of that nature are more prevalent than most people think, but a person may be too nervous or restricted or not know to speak up about their own situation. By being a bystander and not saying something about a situation, it could escalate and inevitably take a toll on someone. These videos will also aid and give confidence for other people to speak up as the issues are highlighted, discussed and looked at logically.

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    Datuk May on Dec 13, 2016 at 10:41 pm

    If you are politically inclined these videos will illustrate to you how a governing body (in this instance the CTA) overrides the constitutional rights of its people. This is an unacceptable practice internationally. The Tibetans being in exile and are refugees, they really have no course of action for any wrong to be rectified. This suppression must stop.

    If you are spiritually inclined, like all Dorje Shugden devotees, your religious rights are taken away. This is the 21st century and this is another unacceptable form of discrimination within any international standard. It had been hard for the last 20 years of suppression and harsh discrimination, but we all know that it is all worth it to have good samaya with our Gurus and not to let go of what our Gurus have given us, the practice of Dorje Shugden.

    As a Dorje Shugden practitioner who had experienced protection and care from both my Guru, HE the 25th Tsem Rinpoche and Dorje Shugden, I rejoice and thank the Kechara team, Martin, LiKim, Pastor Jean Ai, Pastor Niral and Brando and his crew to have made these amazing videos and their stand for humanity.

    Last but not least, I am most thankful to my Guru, Tsem Rinpoche for guiding his students the correct way and evidently so by the grace and elegant way of presenting what is wrongfully done to 4 million people of this religious faith of Dorje Shugden.

    Appreciation from my heart.

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    Anne Ong on Dec 13, 2016 at 8:58 pm

    Thank you very much Rinpoche for sharing this article and interesting videos about the CTA on the Dorje Shugden ban. Thank you Martin,Li Kim,Pastor Jean Ai, Pastor Niral and Kechara crew for working very hard to produce these videos. Great job and well done everyone! The points explained by Martin is very clear cut. The CTA has been inconsistent in their message to their people, on one hand, they released this video to show that Dorje Shugden Practitioners are collaborating with the Chinese Government to smear the good image of the Dalai Lama and that they are Chinese spies. On the other hand, they are encouraging Tibetans to be friends with China. This is very confusing..I will share this article on my facebook,group and twitter. May this benefit many sentient beings, and may the Ban be lifted very soon.

    With folded palms,
    Anne Ong

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    William Chua on Dec 13, 2016 at 7:26 pm

    Very comprehensive videos addressing and debunking the allegations by the CTA that there is no ban on Dorje Shugden practitioners. Pastor Jean Ai, Pastor Niral, Martin and LI Kim has answered and presented evidence that the claims by the CTA documentary to be false and misguided. The fact that the CTA video is released shows that there is an issue that is dividing the Tibetan community. If it is a non-issue, then there is no need for this video. There is no hard evidence shown to proof that there is no discrimination against Dorje Shugden practitioners but there are laws that is enacted by the CTA to alienate Dorje Shugden practitioners. The CTA has been inconsistent in their message to their people, on one hand, they released this video to show that Dorje Shugden Practitioners are collaborating wight eh Chinese Government to smear the good image of the Dalai Lama and that they are Chinese spies. On the other hand, they are encouraging Tibetans to be friends with China. How are the Tibetans going to react? To hate the Chinese or to love them???

    If I am Tibetan, I will surely be confused!

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    Joy Kam on Dec 13, 2016 at 7:23 pm

    The team under His Eminence Tsem Rinpoche’s guidance have worked very hard to bring this truth out, and together, with other Shugden practitioners all around the world sharing this TRUTH based on FACTS, I am very sure we will bring the ban down.

    Like what Li Kim said to “Some of the greatest worngs is not the people who performs the misdeeds, but the people who permit it to happen”. So this ban actually affects not only Tibetan Shugden practitioners that suffer first hand this disgusting discrimination from a fake democratic Tibetan leadership, but it undermines and insults everyone’s human rights for religious freedom and an out right breach to United Nations’s human rights constitution. The very same thing the fault China for, they do it on their own people! How ironic is that! Hence, this ban actually puts everyone who is different and the minority down. So for the sake of humanity it MUST come down!

    Thank you Rinpoche and the team who has worked very hard for the past weeks to bring this production of truth out to the world. Bravo all and bravo to spread truth, peace and compassion and stamping down the lies and injustice discrimination on Dorje Shugden practice. The truth must be told! Again for the sake of humanity it MUST come down!

    

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    Pastor Han Nee on Dec 13, 2016 at 4:42 pm

    Thank you team for these wonderful videos that clearly and firmly refute the recycled and new allegations and claims of the Tibetan government against Shugden practitioners in their efforts to continue to suppress and persecute them.

    In the first place, the fact that they have produced a book and a video to demonise Shugden and Shugden practitioners after H.H. the Dalai Lama himself had already publicly announced that we can practice Shugden and that Shugden had never harmed Him, seems to me a clear act of defiance of the Dalai Lama .

    Shugden practitioners, who listen to the words and advice of our Spiritual Guide, have always shown respect to H.H. the Dalai Lama. Praying for the Long Life of H.H. the Dalai Lama goes without say, in our completion dedication, after our daily prayers.

    Furthermore, the accusation of Shugden practitioners as China spies paid by China has not even a shred of evidence to support it. It is just a manipulative way of arousing the ire of Tibetans against Shugden practitioners, because the Tibetans have always seen the Chinese as the evil ones who had robbed them of their rightful hearth and home.

    Contrary to what the CTA insists on, there is a ban and there is a violation of freedom of religion which is enshrined in the 1991 “Charter of Tibetans in Exile.” That there is a ban is seen in the body of evidence, including Shugden people not being allowed to work in Government Departments, Shugden people not being allowed to receive treatment from Government clinics, children of Shugden people being discriminated against in schools, signboards that bar Shugden people from entering shops and other public places.Above all, monks WERE expelled from Monasteries and forced to set up Shar Gaden and Serpom so that they could continue to practice and hold their vows.

    Buddha Shakyamuni had sternly warned that schism must not be allowed to infiltrate into the monastic communities. There must always be harmony within the Sangha as they are the ones who preserve the Dharma.The Tibetan Government is adamant in its efforts to split the monastic community, by upholding the ban and persecuting the monastics who violate the ban. If the ban is not removed soon, and the schism and divide persists, then we fear Tibetan Buddhism may degenerate and disappear. Je Tsongkhapa’s precious teachings so vital to this degenerate age may be lost.

    For the practitioners of Shugden who hold on to their practice because of their commitment to their root Guru, there has been no wavering on their part. They have remained firm in their loyalty and devotion to their root Guru, despite the massive abuse and persecution,prompted by the anti-Shugden stance of the CTA. Compassionate Shugden Lamas who reincarnate (as the recent enthronements of reincarnated young Shugden Lamas show), to continue to bring the dharma of Je Tsongkhapa and Shugden practice,to all who need them, debunk the wrong view of Shugden as a spirit.

    Always

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    Cheng See on Dec 13, 2016 at 4:22 pm

    Thank you for the videos and the video team have done an excellent job.
    Dorje Shugden have help my family and my pets. Am blessed to be a Dorje Shugden practitionor . Thank you Rinpoche.

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    Pastor Patsy on Dec 13, 2016 at 3:42 pm

    So far I have watched only two of the videos and I must say that the videos are excellent. My salutation to all involved for the hard work and dedication to counter the baseless and untrue allegations on Dorje Shugden.

    Many of us received Dorje Shugden practice from our Guru and we are not paid by the Chinese Government. In our beautiful country, we have religious freedom and religious rights; we are allowed to practice what we believed in so it is my choice to practice Dorje Shugden.

    This controversy has brought nothing but difficulties and sufferings for practitioners. May the ban be lifted and may peace and harmony prevail.

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    Samfoonheei on Dec 13, 2016 at 2:18 pm

    Well done .interesting post. Thank you to the hard working team for their participation in the counter anti-Dorje Shugden video.The explanations is indeed simple and easy to understand. Based on facts these five videos were recorded excellently which i enjoyed watching and had it shared with my friends to counter CTA’s untruths.
    I wish that His Holiness the Dalai Lama will soon end the ban on Dorje Shugden. There are too many people suffering just because of it and hoping there is more religious freedom allow.
    Thank you Rinpoche and to the hard working team i salute.

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    Sarah on Dec 13, 2016 at 1:27 pm

    Thank you for these videos providing a strong “body of evidence” on the discrimination against the practice of Dorje Shugden. I’ve relied on Dorje Shugden for several years now and I can say that only good things have happened to me and my family. I strongly feel that if the old Shugden monasteries and hermitages in Tibet were to be restored and the practice of this great Dharmapala spread, the people will gain a lot of merit and there will be peace and prosperity, not only in Tibet, but also in the world.

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    Harold Musetescu on Dec 13, 2016 at 9:44 am

    We must understand that the CTA’s video was produced by and released by the 14th Dalai Lama. The CTA are just puppets in his puppet government. This is the 14th Dalai Lama’s video and no one else’s.

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    Keng Tan on Dec 13, 2016 at 9:16 am

    Thank you Rinpoche, Pastors, Li Kim, Martin Chow and film crew for this incredible videos to counter the Tibetan Administration which went to extraordinary length to enforce the Dorje Shudgen ban for such a long time initially purporting that propitiating Dorje Shugden will harm His Holiness. This is so contradictory to a passage I read in Glen Mullin’s book Path Of The Bodhisattva Warrior, published in 1988, well before His Holiness’s claims and the passage went as follows:

    “Tibetans believe the every Dalai Lama is born enlightened, and has complete power over how long he lives and when he will die. Any appearance to the contrary is merely an act for the sake of operating in the mundane world and training the minds of ordinary people”

    Well, CTA are Tibetans and I am sure they believe what’s written in the aforementioned paragraph and yet they tried to enforce an illegal ban without a valid basis.

    As more people have a better understanding of the principles of Vajrayana, they realised they are unable to continue this on this route have now resorted to discredit the Dorje Shugden practitioners by linking them to the Chinese leader.

    It is shameful that after more than 50 years, they are no where close to obtaining independence for the tibetan people and thus have to resort to such contradictory means to smokescreen their failure.

    People should be up in arms combat this kind of discrimination in a society that has advance into the 21st century.

    I have sent this link to a local radio station presenter James O’Brien at London’s Talk Radio LBC (http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/) pleading for him to read and view these video. I do hope if people agree with me, please do send this link to your local radio station and ask them for help. This is not about going against His Holiness – no, but its about fighting for religious freedom – something humanity recognizes.

    I will be sending this link to another radio presenter Nick Ferrari and hope he will take some moments to grace through the problem of widespread religious persecution perpetrated by the Tibetan Administration:

    http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/

    Thank you once again for your hard work to help a community that has little or no voice.

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    Su Ming on Dec 13, 2016 at 9:03 am

    Wow!!! These information and the video is extremely done well. Is time that we counter the lies in the videos which were release by CTA. I have not seen all of them
    for now but I can’t wait to share this with my tibetan and friends from all around the world.

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    Harold Musetescu on Dec 13, 2016 at 7:49 am

    All this does is show that the Dalai Lama is up to his old tricks.

    Do you really thing that the Dalai Lama is not the secret voice behind all this? Do you really think that if the Dalai Lama did want to “Stop the Ban against Dorje Shugden” he couldn’t did it with a simple statement? Do you really think the CTA would stand up to the Dalai Lama if he publicly stated to “Stopped the Ban against Dorje Shugden”?

    The Dalai Lama is behind all these new plots against the followers of Dorje Shugden. Nothing has changed and we followers of Dorje Shugden must grow up and stop our stupid dreams about asking the Dalai Lama to change his mind and stop the ban. We must continue our public protests against the Dalai Lama.

    Pray to the Dharmapalas and ask them to engage in the “Rite of Liberation” the “Great Pacification Ritual”.

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    Bradley Kassian on Dec 13, 2016 at 6:10 am

    Thank you Rinpoche, pastors, and team for all for your hard work. Too many people continue to suffer, and the world does not need anymore suffering caused by a government that professes democracy but acts indifferent, discrimitory, and contrary to their own constitution. A true democracy does not oppress it’s own people through cloak and dagger techniques. Freedoms of faith/Religion are gureenteed in many governments around the world and in the Universal Decleration of Human Rights by the United Nations. The job of a democratic government is to govern upon the will of the people in free and fair elections and not govern on power concentrated on a select few with their own ideals and ambitions; nor should a democractic goverenment make “make windows into men’s souls.” – A famous Quote from Queen Elizabeth I, who had to govern during turblent times of religious conflict. She was defending the right of her people to follow the religion they felt close to their hearts, and the Tibetans should do the same for themselves.

    May this benefit many sentient beings, and may the Ban be lifted.

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    SPChua on Dec 13, 2016 at 5:19 am

    Dear Rinpoche and all respectful, hard working Kecharian

    My salute to all of you on good work and successfully release of video countering extremely untrue allegations about practising of Dorje Shugden.

    I perceived that the CTA’s anti Shugden video are pushing the very wrong button by accusing all Shugden practitioners linked to China Government. Why? Why so? Their motives are very clear. It’s solely political motivated.

    But why this simple unfounded logic, a point that does not make sense can become one of CTA’s major claims? It’s simple, their methodology becoming very EXTREMES, desperate and therefore naturally become narrow minded without even realising by them self. This accusation is not just a discrimination of religious but an open violation of human right. That is how bad the current day’s CTA leaderships are.

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    Dorjee on Dec 13, 2016 at 4:15 am

    Thanks for hard Works, Long life Tsemrinpoche???

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    Lonsang Tashi on Dec 13, 2016 at 2:57 am

    Peace and truth response back to CTA ‘s baseless allegation .

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    Zawa Tulku on Dec 13, 2016 at 2:29 am

    Thank you for your hard work, this will help millions of people those who suffer from CTA’s BAN POLICY of Buddhist Diety Dorje Shugden.

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      Lew on Dec 13, 2016 at 3:05 am

      Thank you Zawa Rinpoche for your kind words and encouragements. (Tsem) Rinpoche, Martin, Li Kim, Pastor Jean Ai, Pastor Niral and other have all worked very hard to shoot these videos.

      I really like the videos because it is based on facts and logic debate. We all hope many Tibetans can see the logic and stand up against the ban and eventually lift the Dorje Shugden ban.

      May all Buddhist practitioners live harmoniously and befriend with each other. After all, don’t we all want to achieve enlightenment?

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     Valentina Suhendra on Dec 13, 2016 at 2:18 am

     Dear Rinpoche

     Thank you for this excellent post. Thank you Martin and the film crew, Pastor Jean Ai and Pastor Niral for their participation in the counter anti-Dorje Shugden video.

     I must say that when I first found the new anti-Shugden video from the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA), I was very much offended. They accused Dorje Shugden practitioners as being paid/ supported by China. It is something to be called Chinese dogs and other demeaning words by anonymous people, but it is something else when we see a government body who claimed to be democratic accusing a certain group of people as being paid/ supported by the Chinese government just because their practice Dorje Shugden.

     Personally, I practice Dorje Shugden because my teacher, H.E. the 25th Tsem Tulku Rinpoche gave me the practice and I have no relationship with the Chinese government whatsoever.

     These five videos response to the CTA anti-Shugden video are very useful in debunking the issues. It is very necessary to clarify the CTA’s false claims that there is no discrimination against Dorje Shugden practitioners and Dorje Shugden practitioners are Chinese-linked. I always wonder, why the CTA spent money to release this anti-Shugden video instead of helping to increase the welfare of Tibetan refugees in India. It is amazing how far the CTA can go to paint a negative picture on Dorje Shugden worship to cover their shortcomings in taking care of their people.

     Valentina

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     Zawa Tulku on Dec 13, 2016 at 2:11 am

     Thank You for your hard work to help millions of people around the world those who suffer from CTA’s ban policy. Tremondeous benefit for all by this peaceful and truthful response to them.

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       Joy Kam on Dec 13, 2016 at 7:04 pm

       Thank you Zawa Rinpoche for your kind words of encouragement. When we hear other Rinpoche’s, lamas, geshe, monks and Dharma student give thanks and give positive comments for our work, it inspires, encourage and strengthens our faith even further and to work even harder to speak up and speak the truth. It gives us courage and most certainly it bonds all Shugden practitioners even more. And most certainly something we can all rejoice in.

       The team under His Eminence Tsem Rinpoche’s guidance have worked very hard to bring this truth out, and together, with other Shugden practitioners all around the world sharing this TRUTH… I am very sure we will bring the ban down. For the sake of humanity it MUST come down! So thank you for your encouraging work Rinpoche!

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       Li Kim on Dec 16, 2016 at 3:20 am

       Thank you Zawa Rinpoche for your comments. The motivation behind these videos are pure and purposeful. It is our goal that millions will benefit, not only for the Shugden practitioners worldwide but also those who have been misled by the false propaganda of the CTA. I believe that many have been manipulated and forced to believe that the practice of Dorje Shugden is evil. The CTA has persisted this and in doing so created a big and deep divide among the Tibetan people around the world. With these videos I pray that people will think deeper and clearer about this whole issue of the Ban, and most importantly understand and feel the sufferings of Shugden practitioners. Please be well Zawa Rinpoche. With folded hands, Li Kim

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